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pjrv : Messages : 887-887 of 4038
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#887

From: Weatherly-Hawaii...m Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 4:44 am Subject: Which came first...Alpha or Beta? maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha list folks, A point that has bothered me... since I began my journey ...learning about RV...came up again tonight...I was watching the Discovery Science Channel series Body and Mind...It was concerned with our mental processing ...in combination with advertising ...and our obsessions with shopping...basicly how the advertising depts. of stores... manipulate us ...into buying what they want us to...by directing/catching our attention/focus... This program began ...by stating that the majority of the time we are shopping ...in a supermarket...we are in our somewhat subconscious "BETA' mode and switch into our... completely aware... "ALPHA" mode ...when we spot a needed item...and our superconscious takes over...into active Alpha... I bring this up... because I have been somewhat irritated/puzzled ...by the way we use these terms...because ...Alpha comes before Beta historically...in the 'normal' world...(and the aforementioned program dialogue) ...This is what I thought/was taught... was appropriate...before... reading boards/links through RV... In RV... the exact opposite is said to be true...Beta is awake/ more aware mode ...and alpha... is daydreaming (less awake)or somewhat subconcious mode...(of course... nothing compared to Theta/Delta)... I wonder if any one can explain to me ...how these two words came to be juxtaposed...alpha equaling one and beta= two...except ...for in remote viewing...in regard to brainwaves...where beta is said to be one...or most awake and alpha is said to be two ...and more into the subconscious...? Who made these decisions and why were they not taught the ancient meaning for these terms...and/or why did they change their placement? This is the kind of stuff I do/ruminate about... in RV alpha......This has bugged me for two years and I have yet to receive an answer......Help? Love & Light & Laughter Mali'o...aka...Dawna pjrv : Messages : 894-925 of 4038
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#894

From: "Sharon Webb" Date: Wed Oct 23, 2002 1:23 pm Subject: Re: Which came first...Alpha or Beta? sharwebb_30512 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi, I saw the same show...and it set my teeth on edge when they kept referring to an alpha state as beta, and vice versa. It is ALL in regard to brainwaves. Why scientists chose to call beta waves beta and alpha waves alpha, I do not know. But when our brain waves are showing predominant alpha, we are in an alpha (and altered) state, from our "normal" beta waking state. Sharon sharwebb...net www.fractalus.com/sharon Reply | Forward

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From: Weatherly-Hawaii...m Date: Sat Oct 26, 2002 4:32 am Subject: Re: Which came first...Alpha or Beta? maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha Sharon, I know...it really bugged me to...hahah...I have been brainwashed into the RV version!hahaha...but the actual language is the other way around...and before I became accostomed to RV /brainwaves version of alpha and Beta...I was accustomed to the original positioning...I need to know why?...It is such a mystery to me!...Who screwed up?...hahaha...Doesn't anybody know?...Why?...Please? PJ...can you throw that in to Ed May's questions?...or is it too late?...this has bugged me for two years...and I can't take it anymore!... Love & Light & Laughter Mali'o...aka...Dawna

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