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#1774

From: "David " Date: Sun Dec 15, 2002 7:29 pm Subject: Weekly Targets? jam1433 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 PJ, Have you given any thought lately to perhaps posting a weekly target on the list for those who want to take a stab at sessions? Also I really enjoyed the interview with Joe M and would like you to consider interviewing him again sometime in the future, if he is willing and able of course. It would be great to see him as a member of the list like in the good ole days of the VWR list. I have great memories from the VWR list days when Joe, Paul H, Lyn, "Gene" and others would post to the list and answer questions. David Moore Reply | Forward

#1776

From: "PJ Gaenir " Date: Sun Dec 15, 2002 8:28 pm Subject: Re: Weekly Targets? dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Howdy Dave, Will PEM too. > Have you given any thought lately to perhaps > posting a weekly target on the list for those > who want to take a stab at sessions? Yeah, I've thought about it. I began with targets. Someone ... Eva I think, suggested instead of providing feedback a week later, I do it at the same time, so people could do them when they wanted. A couple other things to change... Then someone (Eva, lol!) complained as one had death in it... though I tried to make it as ungory as a dead body can be all things considered. I wanted them to be from my own (intermediate to advanced) target pool, not basics, because everybody can get basic level targets free at a variety of sources, including RVtargets.com for example. I have warning notices in more than one place but those were ignored. I had a second week of a variety of targets and types of targets, but I think I was sulking and didn't post it, LOL! - because I rather felt like if I couldn't have an intermediate group with intermediate targets and warnings all over and STILL people had disputes with it, that there was no way I could really do what I wanted to do with it, so why bother. I got over it quickly but by then Eva (of all the cheek! LOL - I'm teasing) was offering a target with later feedback over on her FARVIEW list! So I figured well, she was doing what I'd intended to do and I didn't need to duplicate that, I could just direct people over there (which I do a lot). If you don't belong you should join, it's a lot of fun. So, I guess I don't really think it's needed here. I am intending -- but as my schedule is ramping up it may not be till late Feb -- to do some ARV stuff, simple fun stuff, but then someone ... Scott I think, suggested I would need to be sure the potential targets were different for everybody. Well I'd considered a project with maybe 2 or 3 sets of three potential targets, but that makes it into ... well, if 20 people out of 80 want to try a session, that makes it into around 60 targets and frankly, just a much larger project, good heavens. He's right and I'm willing to do it but it has to wait until I have more time at this point. > Also I really enjoyed the interview with > Joe M and would like you to consider > interviewing him again sometime in the > future, if he is willing and able of course. Yeah, I'm sure we can. I wish I could just download his brain into mine sometimes. The man is a walking encyclopedia on the most amazing variety of subjects, not to mention RV! Not to mention he is really creative and damned funny -- parts of himself that the public rarely if ever sees. > It would be great to see him as a member > of the list like in the good ole days of > the VWR list. I have great memories from > the VWR list days when Joe, Paul H, Lyn, > "Gene" and others would post to the list > and answer questions. And Liam (Bill) and Russ (Targ) and Greg, and a few psychics, like Bevy Jaegers and Rob Abbott and others. I know, but I knew when doing VWR that it was probably the first and last shot at getting those guys (a) together in one place and (b) actually talking with each other and the public fairly openly... you'll see in the archives I repeatedly stressed to members that whatever we didn't ask, might not have another chance, and I was probably right. I'm willing to bet most of the guys other than Joe are on the IRVA list, but members don't make it sound like it is exactly a bastion of serious discussion about hands-on remote viewing or anything, and maybe that's fair if it's dominantly an "organization" list. Joe would never have time. He makes time for stuff I send him but his schedule is worse than mine and I'm an overworked single mother, lol. And the thing is, what time he DOES have, he allots a lot of it to RV - free stuff - and then I get into this guilt mode feeling like if I take up hours of his time, he could have spent that helping someone. And since there are like, so few other options for psychics as good as he is to help people, that's a serious thing. Sigh... PJ Reply | Forward

#1778

From: "Eva " Date: Sun Dec 15, 2002 10:40 pm Subject: Re: Weekly Targets? k9caninek9 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > I think, suggested instead of > providing feedback a week later, I do > it at the same time, so people > could do them when they wanted. Well if you are going to put 15 of them up like last time, I would say that's an issue. I don't like to do 15 of them in a row without having the feedback yet cuz I then later I can't hardly remember doing any of them and it's hard to compare my experiences during the session with the feedback. I can do one or two like that, but I don't want to do 15 like that. > couple other things to change... Then someone > (Eva, lol!) complained > as one had death in it... though I tried > to make it as ungory as a > dead body can be all things considered. > I wanted them to be from my > own (intermediate to advanced) target pool, > not basics, because > everybody can get basic level targets free > at a variety of sources, > including RVtargets.com for example. > I have warning notices in more > than one place but those were ignored. I didn't 'ignore' them, LOL! I just saved a link directly to the correct webpage (as I'm sure many others will do as well) and that page did not have the warnings. Unlike you PJ, most people do not read everything that exists on a website right off the bat. You are more thorough than the average person. I just thought people should have a clear idea of what 'advanced' targets meant to you. On other websites, advanced usually just means they might be difficult like a sprig of celery or something like that, not a dead guy. I think some of the members of your list may want practice but may not want to view dead guys just yet. > I had a second week of a variety of > targets and types of targets, but > I think I was sulking and didn't post > it, LOL! - because I rather > felt like if I couldn't have an > intermediate group with intermediate > targets and warnings all over and > STILL people had disputes with it, > that there was no way I could really > do what I wanted to do with it, > so why bother. Dude, I think you are getting just a wee tad melodramatic here. A suggestion is not the same thing as a huge old stinking complaint fit! ;-) > I got over it quickly but by then Eva > (of all the cheek! LOL - I'm > teasing) was offering a target with > later feedback over on her > FARVIEW list! So I figured well, she > was doing what I'd intended to > do and I didn't need to duplicate that, > I could just direct people > over there (which I do a lot). Well I WAS there first, plbbbtttt! ;-) If I knew you were going to crawl out of a hole and start your own list a few months later, I may not have started FARVIEW figuring I'd just let you do all the work instead. Oh well, I guess my psychic powers just weren't up to snuff! > If you don't belong you should join, > it's a lot of fun. Well thanx! We had some pretty good sessions on today's target. > Well I'd considered > a project with maybe 2 or 3 sets of > three potential targets, but that > makes it into ... well, if 20 people > out of 80 want to try a session, > that makes it into around 60 targets > and frankly, just a much larger > project, good heavens. He's right > and I'm willing to do it but it > has to wait until I have more time at this point. Or you could just do it the first time with the same two targets and see how it goes. Call it an experiment. Believe me, if you try to listen to everybody's suggestions all at once, you may just go bats cuz half the time, they tend to contradict eachother. Such is life as a moderator. ;-) > I knew when > doing VWR that it was probably the > first and last shot at getting > those guys (a) together in one place > and (b) actually talking with > each other and the public fairly openly... > you'll see in the archives > I repeatedly stressed to members that > whatever we didn't ask, might > not have another chance, and I was > probably right. I'm willing to > bet most of the guys other than Joe > are on the IRVA list, but members > don't make it sound like it is > exactly a bastion of serious > discussion about hands-on remote viewing > or anything, and maybe > that's fair if it's dominantly > an "organization" list. Almost no one posts. Lyn very rarely posts on IRVAmembers, but mostly only posts on his own CRV list. Paul used to post a tad too but I think he has kind of withdrawn a bit from the online rv world lately to save time for other things. As for any others, if they are on there, they don't post. I think at some point, I realized that the only solution was to make our own new VWR list with the new generation learning and posting their thoughts. The old guys are mostly either too busy or just tired of it all and you don't see them posting much of much. You just can't go back in time. > and then I get into this > guilt mode feeling like > if I take up hours of his time, > he could have spent that helping > someone. And since there are like, > so few other options for psychics > as good as he is to help people, > that's a serious thing. Sigh... Yeah, except the greater good will be served if there is a next generation coming behind him. In the long run, that will serve many more people. Lets face it, we are the next generation and we need to get busy, LOL! -E -------------------------- Moderator's note: LOL. I knew you'd get me for those target comments. ;-) Crawling back to my 4am hole now. ;-) -- PJ Reply | Forward

#1817

From: "intuitwolf " Date: Sat Dec 21, 2002 9:47 pm Subject: Re: Weekly Targets? intuitwolf Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > > I have great memories from > > the VWR list days The IRVA list is such a mix of folks - a pretty good spread from just about every group; probably about half are people who don't even remote view but have an interest. Paul has been buried in work and school, Lyn is busy with his own list, Targ never posted but once or twice, Bill seems to be on the road a lot these days, Skip doesn't post, Angela rarely posts anything and has started her own list - and it's been laid at my doorstep like a child no one wants to deal with. It's one of those lists where every time a lengthy ongoing discussion breaks out - even when it's not conflict oriented - people complain to me in PEM and unsub cause they aren't interested in anything that takes up bandwidth. :-) I don't know why these folks subscribed anyway. At least half of IRVA's members do not belong to the discussion list. I also have to admit that even I have ignored the list for the last month while transitioning into moderating Stargate full time. But watch out! the New Year is on our doorstep. Hope that clarifies the situation for you, Shelia Reply | Forward

#1820

From: "intuitwolf " Date: Sat Dec 21, 2002 10:23 pm Subject: Re: Weekly Targets? intuitwolf Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 My prior message was a response to PJ's comments regarding the IRVA list: " I'm willing to bet most of the guys other than Joe are on the IRVA list, but members don't make it sound like it is exactly a bastion of serious discussion about hands-on remote viewing or anything, and maybe that's fair if it's dominantly an "organization" list. " - somehow I deleted those comments. Apologies if it seemed totally disjointed. Shelia ----------------------- Moderator's note: I probably did. Sorry, I assume that people actually read the list, and that a brief mention (if that) is enough to put threads together, so I often delete a good % of the quoting that comes in. -- PJ

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