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pjrv : Messages : 190-190 of 4038
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#190

From: "Glyn" Date: Sun Jul 21, 2002 4:21 am Subject: Re: Useless Data gebega Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi PJ, I like this idea of RVers baring their inner thoughts and fears......we'll probably find that a lot of us feel the same way. You said: > Trivia: research says about 30% of data supplied for any target, will > apply to about 30% of most other targets. So it's really not all that > difficult to get 'some' accurate data about something. Boy doesn't > that make minimally good sessions less consoling, lol! If I'm surprised at all it's only that the percentage of false match is not even higher. I notice that about my own sessions. Sometimes half-way through a session I even catch myself thinking (which I shouldn't be doing anyway:-)), that I've picked up so much general info that I'm almost guaranteed to get something; and sometimes it is almost a comfort. Heck....I am *appalled* when I begin to think that way, mentally kick myself for it, and end up being even more critical about my session when I get feedback; but it happens. > So I am willing to eat it publicly for awhile, as I'm really > just starting out here on regular practice (after all these years!), > in the hopes that eventually, this will get better. :-) IMO the only way to get past the 30% effect is try and be more specific in session, to have the courage of my convictions and to start learning from them. That takes a hell of a lot of practice and even more courage to start to do. I don't mean having the courage to fail in front of my taskers or fellow viewers...but to be humiliated and humbled in front of the one person who really counts in my RV is something else, my prime judge.........me! To fail to improve in front of my own ego.......that sensitive part of me that may try to slam the door shut rather than experience the pain and personal humiliation of the truth; that I may never get better at it....is something that has to be dealt with and overcome, by me alone. However, if I don't try, then the alternative path just leads to ...more of the same. Good on you PJ :-). Kind regards, Glyn pjrv : Messages : 184-198 of 4038
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#184

From: "dennanm" Date: Sat Jul 20, 2002 10:55 pm Subject: Useless Data dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Following on other comments today... is my gradually realizing the amount of damn near useless data I get about targets. Now some might say an analyst can use anything. But I can use "across" and "spans" and "over" and "flat" and terms like this for damn near every session and have them be accurate, and short of something being an actual bridge, it just ain't real specific. It's like my Ideograms which half the time look and feel no different than any other 1,281 ideograms. What annoys me is that I get that kind of data anyway, when a whole lot of far more USEFUL and SPECIFIC data could be in the session and I am not getting it! Sigh. Trivia: research says about 30% of data supplied for any target, will apply to about 30% of most other targets. So it's really not all that difficult to get 'some' accurate data about something. Boy doesn't that make minimally good sessions less consoling, lol! I've gone back to to 1page/5minute exercises for awhile, after a couple of days of zero data. I find that the zero-data effect tends to kick in after I've done a data-session that turns out to be out of the thin air and unrelated to any target. Obviously a psychological response, you know, like if I can't trust the data then I block getting any at all for awhile! Sheesh. One reason I try to be open about difficulties and experiences here is because a few years from now, if that, I fully intend to kick ass at RV -- and I want a documented history of how it came about for me. So I am willing to eat it publicly for awhile, as I'm really just starting out here on regular practice (after all these years!), in the hopes that eventually, this will get better. :-) PJ Reply | Forward

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