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#1328

From: Rfjuice... Date: Mon Nov 18, 2002 6:10 pm Subject: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking rfjuice2000 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi PJ or anyone, Could you clarify something ? I am not formally trained so please bear with me. Regarding double-blind tasking being an important stipulation, as I take it the viewer and monitor might have some telepathic connection. Suppose a session is not double-blind and the monitor does know the target, and the viewer sees the correct information, however the viewer surpasses the limited knowledge that the monitor has and goes on to describe much more detail and information which is confirmed upon feedback. Do you feel that session would have value? Or is it that you are referring more to public and/or scientific demonstrations where proof no "hanky-panky" was going on is necessary, so then the double-blind stipulation? Or is there more to it from a training standpoint? I do agree double-blind conditions are the best way to go. Unfortunately, many of us practicing at home don't have the luxury of a monitor, let alone double-blind conditions. I'm just trying to tap into your experience, and would appreciate any thoughts you have. Thanks, Linda Reply | Forward

#1333

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Tue Nov 19, 2002 12:17 am Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi LInda, I think that's just fine and Bevy for instance worked that way on crimes most of the time. But if you want to prove to YOURSELF that you really hit the target without help..then you might want to avoid it IMO. But if you are trying to solve a murder, or save someone.. use whatever you can. Best Wishes, Bill Reply | Forward

#1351

From: greenmn900... Date: Tue Nov 19, 2002 11:52 am Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking greenmn900... Send Email Send Email Linda, I don't use a monitor either. Try this: Have someone make up 20-50 targets and seal them in unmarked envelopes. Throw them all in a garbage bag and shake them up, mix them up. Then pull out one at random when you want to RV and do your session. You will be working under doubleblind conditions. I've done 99% of my targets this way. It works. Best Regards, Don Reply | Forward

#1363

From: Rfjuice... Date: Tue Nov 19, 2002 5:51 pm Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking rfjuice2000 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > docsavagebill writes > I think that's just fine and Bevy for instance worked > that way on crimes most of the time. But if you want > to prove to YOURSELF that you really hit the target > without help..then you might want to avoid it IMO. But > if you are trying to solve a murder, or save someone.. > use whatever you can. Hi Bill, She was quite amazing, wasn't she? Wish I could have met her. When you exceed past the monitor's possible knowledge, (and I mean with no frontloading, except the target number).and it is verified, that's pretty good work IMO. What helps me is just actually practicing, over and over, find out what works and gets the best results for me, and just do it. Thanks, Linda Reply | Forward

#1369

From: Rfjuice... Date: Tue Nov 19, 2002 5:59 pm Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking rfjuice2000 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > Have someone make up 20-50 targets > and seal them in unmarked envelopes. [...] Hi Don, I'll give that a try, who knows what kind of targets my hubby with choose, well they'll be a surprise I'm sure :) Thanks, Linda ------------------ Moderator's note: I made my own target pool, so I chose my targets. But there's around 800 of them (and a couple hundred more coming). So although I did see them, there are so many and so VARIED and so many similar things too for any major-specific thing, that is functions as double blind. -- PJ Reply | Forward

#1376

From: greenmn900... Date: Wed Nov 20, 2002 7:37 am Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking greenmn900... Send Email Send Email Linda, That's great. My wife makes my targets. You guys will probably have a lot of fun with it, we do. You ought to have him read McMoneagle's "Mind Trek" and "Remote Viewing Secrets", at least the targeting parts, so he'll get a better idea of what makes really good targets. This can make a big difference in how fast you progress. Good luck, Don Reply | Forward

#1393

From: Richard Krankoski Date: Wed Nov 20, 2002 7:19 pm Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking Rich_crv Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > > Have someone make up 20-50 targets > > and seal them in unmarked envelopes. [...] > > Moderator's note: I made my own target pool, so I chose my targets. I am curious what part intent plays for each target. Are the targets just cut out and tossed in an envelope? Do you take some time deciding what the actual tasking is? Is it written down with the target? Is there any directive to view the actual site at the time shown? I am thinking that if one merely gathers up a bunch of photos, even very selectively, and just seals them away the RVing turns into "what's in the envelope?" Rich Reply | Forward

#1404

From: greenmn900... Date: Wed Nov 20, 2002 3:47 pm Subject: Re: Some thoughts on double-blind tasking greenmn900... Send Email Send Email Rich, I think it's best if the back of the picture is covered with white paper and any parts of the picture that aren't important are cut out. That's also another reason why the targets should be chosen pretty carefully, so there's one thing in each picture that really stands out. But you're right, you could also write down a description of exactly what you want the Rver to target from among the things that are in the picture. I think anything done that will help pinpoint and maybe intensify the taskers ointent would help. Best regards, Don

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