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pjrv : Messages : 1192-1204 of 4038
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#1192

From: Richard Krankoski Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 8:56 pm Subject: Some advice from PsiTech Rich_crv Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 The following was part of the latest PsiTech newsletter.
~~--------ArchivedPostFollows_Yahoo-PJRV_group---------------------------------------- " If you give me a target, with random reference numbers[Image] know what the target is. So it is in the collective unconscious. Let's say I wrote a program that searched Internet for graphic files (any graphic files), downloaded them, assigned them random reference numbers, and show these numbers. Nobody knows what the target is, the only thing that knows it is a computer. With the above scene do I have a chance of getting the target right? In that scenario, anything goes, as that is not the correct procedure for TRV. When you create a TRV target, you must follow the (Matrix recognized) ritual of using a folder and envelope, and the Target Reference Numbers must be assigned to the target by a human mind, which establishes intent. When using target reference material (photographs) the target must also have a name assigned to it, written on the tab of the file folder (this always takes priority), otherwise you might TRV the photograph or image itself rather than the remote site. Using photographs when making TRV targets is not necessary, but it provides valuable feedback in the early stages of training."
~~--------ArchivedPostFollows_Yahoo-PJRV_group---------------------------------------- Well, that sure puts RV ritual to an extreme. :) I love that "Matrix recognized" part. I am really more interested in the scenario of computer selected tagets. Doesn't human intent fit in as the ultimate cause? "Describe the targets selected by the computer." Or are we in the area that McMoneagle mentioned to me about the tasker focusing on his intent? Seems that PsiTech's procedure also eliminates putting photos in envelopes, mixing them up, then assigning a tracking number after making a random selection. Rich ------------------------ Moderator's note: You are describing the target which the computer will generate which is represented by WHAT YOU ARE SHOWN AS FEEDBACK. So your target is essentially the location/thing/etc. represented by your feedback. The number hasn't got a thing to do with anything. I once did several targets with the same number years ago and did just fine. According to the theory above, an "infinite" number of numbers assigned to everything on earth could screw things up, especially if a numbere were ever re-used in RV. Sounds like an endless list of excuses for why sessions suck to me. ;-) But then, I say that about extensive claims on displacement and such too, I guess... -- PJ Reply | Forward

#1196

From: "PJ Gaenir" Date: Sat Nov 9, 2002 8:35 am Subject: Re: Some advice from PsiTech dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email > --- In pjrv...ichard Krankoski [big snip] > Well, that sure puts RV ritual to an extreme. :) > I love that "Matrix recognized" part. > [snip] > Seems that PsiTech's procedure also eliminates putting photos in > envelopes, mixing them up, then assigning a tracking number after > making a random selection. I guess I shouldn't be so humorous, as it occurs to me that there might actually be people on this list who really believe things like, some invisible signal line radiates from your head out into the netherworld, which forms a beacon line attaching to an actual envelope or folder with a number on it, which then finds (perhaps from some akashic record) the info desired, which then returns this back to the user. I realize this is actually pretty close to formal Signal Line theory. I find it so funny I admit I don't take it seriously, but I thought about it a bit and thought, well, that's just my opinion. I keep thinking I'm always right but for some reason nobody will humor me about this. Maybe there are actually other points of view. ;-) We have TRV people on this list. Although CRV teaches in Ingo structure it doesn't, not even in Paul's format which teaches signal line, take target #s and "process doctrine" as literally as TRV does. Is there any actual experiential support for this theory, for this way of going about things? Has anybody actually ever done RV and found a benefit or problem that seemed to support the signal line theory, beyond the general concepts of clarity/noise? PJ P.S. I'm out of the loop until late tonight you guys. My semi-annual meeting with my boss is on this weekend. :-) Reply | Forward

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From: "Greg Kolodziejzyk" Date: Sat Nov 9, 2002 12:31 pm Subject: RE: Some advice from PsiTech gregkolodzie... Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Dam! All this time and I didn't even know my procedure wasn't "matrix recognized"! > The following was part of the latest PsiTech newsletter. > In that scenario, anything goes, as that is not the correct > procedure for TRV. When you create a TRV target, you must > follow the (Matrix recognized) ritual of using a folder and > envelope, and the Target Reference Numbers must be assigned > to the target by a human mind, gk --------------------------- Moderator's note: All this time any success we had was because we were just too stupid to know better, perhaps? :-) PJ Reply | Forward

#1204

From: Weatherly-Hawaii...m Date: Sat Nov 9, 2002 5:12 pm Subject: Re: Some advice from PsiTech maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha Rich, I was just thinking about this issue the other day... I believe PIA is random generated...as is also done by random generators Gotpsi...and no human knows the answer untill completion... It seems as if telepathy would be as good an explanation as general psi or RV ...when any human knows the currant target...at least these nearest the actual people involved in info retrieval... Isn't double blind accomplished ...only... when not known by tasker or viewer?... At Farview I am pretty sure Eve knows the target...So telepathy could well be an added effect on those targets...I am much more comfortable with telepathy for some reason as well...but if the data is already known...why would anyone pay for the info?...Isn't the whole idea behind operations...to retrieve "unknown" data? Has anyone tried to compile a random set of photos that have never been viewed?...It seems to me most things... have been seen... by at least the per-son compiling the paperwork or taking the photo...or not?...So why would the one donating the target have to know what it is?...It is already submitted to the Akashic records/computer memory... by the original human creating them... (If there truly is an akashic records or universal mind...I can prove I have computer memory...repeatedly...haha) Love & Light & Laughter Mali'o...aka...Dawna

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