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pjrv : Messages : 376-486 of 4038
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#376

From: keb Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 3:48 am Subject: Re: Signs (RV or Shamanic, not movies :-)) mesundo Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360° Invite to Yahoo! 360° >dennanm wrote: > My daughter got up for the bathroom in the > middle of the night, and lets out this shriek at finding this giant > dead black bird in the hallway. > I ran out there, and I looked at it, and I had this.... this > FEELING... that this was "a sign." And that it was the first of > three. Hi PJ, If this was a communication from the unconscious,(sign) perhaps it was for your daughter(and for you to witness). She was the one who found it and it may be a way to let you know that she may start to have strange experiences (such as the big blue tower in your post Re:Object Consciousness). When I read the post about the tower I thought "well here is her third sign". But since it was such a long time between the experiences, it most likely was not.. If you had a strong feeling that you were going to have three signs, it may have come when you were just having a bad day and did not recognize it. > And is there some kind of 'time limit' on signs? I like to believe there is. I would hate to wait for weeks and months waiting for a sign and then not recalling what its about. :-) When I get something that I percieve as a sign, I try to recall what my thought train was at the instant that I recieve the sign and see if anything clicks. If I am doing something or about to do something and I think that I just recieved a sign, I try to become more aware of what is going on around me. > Or if this is about 'probabilities', did I shift out of the timeline > where the third sign would have happened? It's possible you got the message,made the changes and did not require the third sign. Regards, Ken Reply | Forward

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From: "rvrichrb" Date: Sun Aug 4, 2002 12:16 pm Subject: Re: Signs (RV or Shamanic, not movies :-)) rvrichrb Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360° Invite to Yahoo! 360° Hi Ken and PJ, > >dennanm wrote: > > And is there some kind of 'time limit' on signs? > >ken wrote: > I like to believe there is. I would hate to wait > for weeks and months waiting for a sign and > then not recalling what its about. :-) Now Rich writes: I certainly don't know where signs come from, nor do I know if this is related in any way to your signs, but I thought I'd pass it along. I recall John Edward (TV psychic) saying that he had an agreement with his mother to give him--I believe three--signs after she crossed over. The first two he received relatively quickly. The third sign came nine years later. So apparently even if you know you're going to get them, a timely delivery is not much of a consideration. Rich --------------- Moderator's note: Really! Thanks a lot for that Rich. It has really baffled me how I got two and then never a third. I guess I "AOL'd" (lol) that if the second came a couple weeks after the first, that the third 'had to be' in that timeframe. Had to be, sheesh - lately I've been 'stopping my thoughts' and asking myself to retrace how I got to where I ended up in process (often through a series of daydreams and images and associations). It is always amazing when I do that... I keep noticing how many things about reality I think 'have to be' that way, for no particular reason at all.... PJ Reply | Forward

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From: Pame Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 7:57 am Subject: Re: Signs (RV or Shamanic, not movies :-)) elittlestar Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360° Invite to Yahoo! 360° Signs i remember Monday, August 05, 2002 I had dreams that were very vivid and weird in the content of the dream, like I got on to an invisible motor scooter that had the noise of one but you couldn't see it. And it drove me up the narrow jutting ledge sticking out of the side of a steep ridged fluted mountain. Like the mountains on Oahu Hawaii but the top was flat. And at the end of the trail close to the top of the mountain was a cave and hanging over the opening was large green banana leaves as a curtain& A few days later a friend wanted to show me a haiau, that is in the middle of the pineapple field the area had a few trees and some rocks, one with the same fluted sides as in my dream to the main rock, but it was like looking at a miniature of that mountain. On the top of the rock someone was carved the same name as mine& A few weeks later I had a second time, with the same combination again. First the dream of driving down a long steep hill and driving over the edge at the end of the road& And then a few days later I got lost with directions to a meeting and I was going down this steep hill and I slowed down making sure my brakes worked& but I was already having this Oh-no feeling and a recall of the dream& At the end of the road at the bottom of the hill the road Td across and you need to turn right or left. If I didn't stop and turn I / the road goes over the cliff there& I had stopped at the intersection and looked up at the street name and part of the name was again mine& My feelings at first was to look for the third sign and see if I could triangulate a point on the map of maybe someplace that it might lead me too who knows what! I thought that was adventurous and as tumultuous as you can get and I was anxious for the third sign& But I also knew that all this was also giving me a more knowing of all things connected. I could have said coincidence but I knew it was too much proof to dismiss it as coincidence. At the same time I totally enjoyed these tumultuous experiences. A whole lot more meaning then I can put into words& OK, what would you call it all&? Pame Reply | Forward

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From: jsentient... Date: Mon Aug 5, 2002 8:28 am Subject: Re: Signs (RV or Shamanic, not movies :-)) jsentient Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360° Invite to Yahoo! 360° Hi folks, << OK, what would you call it allā¬¦? >> OK, signs happen, and they are very interesting. But, what's with the three thing? Palyne looks for a third sign,,,,,Pane looks for a third sign,,,,,John Edwards looks for three signs from his passed mother. Is there something about three? When Palyne mentioned her dead crow and a third sign,,,,,,I thought about Bible scriptures and how Jesus told Peter when the cock CROWs he would have betrayed THREE times. It was just a thought. I wonder, , , is there a difference between a symbol and a sign? I wonder, just how much information can be "packed" into a symbol or a sign,,,just how much efficiency in knowing can be accomplished with a representation? I wonder, is a sign really a sign if there is no decipher / interpretation? One thing,,,,I don't think precognitive images are signs. The trouble with signs is,,,,,we see what we are looking for. And that BTW, is why RV is done blind. NLT, signs are most real. What would I call it? I would call it meaningfull. Jay Reply | Forward

#486

From: "dennanm" Date: Sat Aug 17, 2002 12:49 am Subject: Re: Signs (RV or Shamanic, not movies :-)) dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Hey you guys, in doing the archiving for this group, I remembered something that I had totally forgotten about, and didn't mention. In my post talking about "the signs" I got 2 out of 3 of and wondered what it was about and where the last one was, I said, [[ But my aunt and I were talking one day... I had this tiger-striped grey cat. And she says, "I had this really weird dream last night. I dreamed that there were two cats, and one was just like your cat there, except blood red instead of grey. And it ATE the other cat, and there was this red striped tabby cat with the tip of the tail of another cat sticking out of its mouth!" I looked at her oddly, because I had the PROFOUND feeling, while she said that, "This is the second sign of the three." ]] I forgot to mention. That when she said this, and the "knowing" part about it being a "sign" came, I had this really heavy "overlay" on a biblical thing. When Joseph (of the coat of many colors) was told the Pharoah's dream, the dream had these 7 fat cows, and then there were these 7 skinny cows, and the skinny cows came and ate the 7 fat cows (there was more), and he interpreted the dream to mean, that there would be 7 years of plenty, and then 7 years of famine. Well when I got that, I actually flashed hard on this biblical reference, of one creature eating another of its kind, and I thought to myself that the "red cat" might represent blood consuming peace -- a sort of war thing perhaps. I wrote this off right afterward, as I do most things that pass through my mind briefly (I'm working on that...). But I was suddenly reminded of this, when I archived that post, and had made a note to myself to mention this probably relevant aspect of it on the list. PJ pjrv : Messages : 497-497 of 4038
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#497

From: jsentient... Date: Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:51 pm Subject: Re: Re: Signs (RV or Shamanic, not movies :-)) jsentient Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360° Invite to Yahoo! 360° Hi Palyne, > and I thought to myself that the "red cat" > might represent blood consuming peace -- a > sort of war thing perhaps. With heavy heart I will tell the list that war definitely seems to be coming. I think anyone can foresee this without psychic skill , , , or without my special perspective from inside the U.S. Army. I have been privy to classified briefings and many Intel ops briefings and wish I could share, but no. This weekend I wrote a letter to my congressional representatives. I did this not thinking it would change things (not too optimistic about it), but as the father of a 19 year old son, as an American, and with an almost 20 year career dedicated to the defense of our country, , , I had to go on record before it starts. This time will be different,,,,,it won't be good,,,IMO. I am sorry Palyne if this post response wasn't so much RV related. I suspect signs must be interpreted to even be sings. I am not interpreting your sign however. You may be your own best hope for that. If you feel it is a sign though, regardless of not for sure knowing what it means, I am with you,,,,it is a sign. Jay ----------------------- Moderator's note: The first two signs happened pre-Spring, 2001. Before 9/11, before I was thinking about the topic of war. Joe's been talking about it coming around this period for years and years. Bummer. :-( PJ

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