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pjrv : Messages : 851-857 of 4038
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#851

From: Richard Krankoski Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 11:25 pm Subject: Re: Sessions 2.10.1 and 2.10.2 Rich_crv Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 yaagghhh after all that..... I get http error 404 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rich It WRAPPED! I didn't know it would. You have to paste the two lines together, not just click on it. -- PJ Reply | Forward

#853

From: "PJ Gaenir" Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 12:04 am Subject: Re: easier feedback pic - Sessions 2.10.1 and 2.10.2 dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email OK I uploaded the pic to the 'photos' section of PJRV, click on the one that begins with 'sessions' in the link, it's the 4th one. PJ --- In pjrv...ichard Krankoski yaagghhh > > after all that..... I get http error 404 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Rich > > It WRAPPED! I didn't know it would. You have to paste the two lines together, not just click on it. -- PJ Reply | Forward

#857

From: "Glyn" Date: Sat Oct 19, 2002 2:38 pm Subject: Re: Sessions 2.10.1 and 2.10.2 gebega Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi PJ, It's easy to cherry-pick after the event, but I think the following bits from your session were really good. > visual sense: looks pretty much the same from 360' around the target. > A. A sunset-like "gradient" {of shades}. Not what I'd choose to > paint. [note: feeling of disinterest.] > A. OK. It's big. So cool. People come here. Not tons or > anything. But some. Not a BIG deal. But I like the people. > > Q. Is the target manmade? > > A. Well yes, of course. But not major. Not like a building. > ...a weird 'windmill' impression -- like the shape. this distorted > to tie back into the sense of 'pulling strings' (or rather strings > pulling something) which went back into another aol of a park ride.. You also mentioned shaking and the feeling of being tired.......... Which of course you would be if you had just finished constructing a crop-circle in the dark with a stick and a bit of string. LOL! Kind regards, Glyn ------------------------------ Moderator's note: I think something motorized pulling a flattish piece of metal on cables some kind -- but I think an individual was also on foot working to guide and hold, or to do smaller portions perhaps. It's funny how much data I get that doesn't come in as actual 'data', but rather, as 'subtle knowns', accepted without question or specific definition, and not until after feedback do all those pieces fall into place (usually 'contextually'). The sessions themselves, excepting AOLs I already knew about and a ROTE I torqued a little in the unwinding, every bit of them points to machinery and humans making it. The real bummer is, that particular crop circle is one I would have guessed might be a 'real' one. And of course, there IS NO FEEDBACK on this point, so who knows? But considering both the sessions tied into something I can reasonably correlate with the feedback I do have, I guess I take it fairly literally, if temporarily, in place of having no other data anyway. PJ pjrv : Messages : 866-866 of 4038
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#866

From: "David Humphries" Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:12 pm Subject: Re: Re: Sessions 2.10.1 and 2.10.2 a_healey56 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi PJ, We just did a crop circle target on Aurorabomb a couple of weeks ago, and I was getting ET type impressions all throughout the session. This was strange because I'm not into the UFO/ET/alien/crop circle thing myself, and I still got these impressions. I've heard people who are really into the crop circle phenomenon admit that 80%-90% are clearly hoaxes. Maybe you viewed a certifiable hoax. Dave ---------------------- Moderators' note: The real bummer is that I expect a few of them are real -- and that is one of the ones that I would have suspected of being of an 'anomalous' origin. I'm more likely to suspect nature spirits than aliens but then, if we ever met a nature spirit, maybe they seem alien. :-) Well I'll have to see how the others turn out, plus this one will go back in the pool, so there's always a next time.... eventually! PJ pjrv : Messages : 850-879 of 4038
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#850

From: "PJ Gaenir" Date: Fri Oct 18, 2002 11:19 pm Subject: Sessions 2.10.1 and 2.10.2 dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Well I took a month off RV. Tonight I did a session that was the second on a target, I didn't get to finish the first one a month ago. Some of you might like this one. It is one of the closest to 'esoteric' targets I have in my pool.... 15sep02 2.10.1 target is focus of photo-paper in security env on top shelf. shaking.... a flattish metal piece... it's at an angle to the ground... shaking?... sorta clanging sound sometimes... loud metallic sound... body: suddenly my hands feel weak; like they're tired; like they're so exhausted I can barely hold the pen to write.... yes. metal at angle to ground, flat shape... several things sticking up...now going in different directions... body feels weird all over, pulsing like exertion, pain and tired... thing like flat rectangle near ground at some angle. interrupt -- {didn't practice for a month. Had some psyche issues.} 18oct02 2.10.2 target is focus of photo-paper in security env on top shelf. Describe the target. coming up from under (several lines near together that go up and then bend over a bit at the top) visual sense: looks pretty much the same from 360' around the target. Tugging like it's pulling Like on long sorta thin (comparatively) somethings like just pulling.... there are (aol weird theme park ride) multiple things which are in tension like (several straight lines next together, redrawn four times till I got the 'feel' right, which had them at an 45' angle to the ground -- the part "up" has something attached which is pulling, the part "down" has a "heavy weight" which is being pulled) vague sense of like... wagon team or livestock reins or.... CLEAR. Again. Q.blackhumoridentity: what do you say about this target? A. They're going somewhere (edited out initially: but never as fast as they plan). You need to keep on, you haven't got it yet. (OK, thanks.) Q. The painter in me, how do you perceive that target? A. A sunset-like "gradient" {of shades}. Not what I'd choose to paint. [note: feeling of disinterest.] (OK, thanks.) Q. The architect in me, how do you perceive the target? A. It's OK. Q. No comments on it? A. Not really. It's not my kinda thing. (Oh. OK, thanks. note: he's not interested.) Q. Who is volunteering? [...eager female - an emotional... is aspect volunteering] Q. Be responsible. I need 'real' data in MY terms. A. OK. It's big. So cool. People come here. Not tons or anything. But some. Not a BIG deal. But I like the people. Q. What can I call you?? A. People-girl I guess. Q. OK. I will bring you in on targets that feature people if I can, ok? A. OK. OK! (Happy sense) [note in typing: Sheesh. I talk to myself AND get answers, should I be frightened? LOL.] Q. Super-psychic-aspect -- I assume I've got at least one! -- if more, please combine -- what can you tell me about this target? A. (All came at once in a ball, I had to 'give it a sequence' and I fear I mangled some of this data bringing it out of the ball): long -- long and pointed -- long way -- long way home -- big flat... water? -- big flat land. -- moving across it -- strong sense of earlier feelings, the "one thing attached to another heavy thing with something long and thin and pulling it around" -- sudden AOL on waterskiing, that sense of 'pulling by cord/rope/cable/etc. Q. Is the target manmade? A. Well yes, of course. But not major. Not like a building. ...a weird 'windmill' impression -- like the shape. this distorted to tie back into the sense of 'pulling strings' (or rather strings pulling something) which went back into another aol of a park ride... Well I'm going to call this session, but start doing the time limited exercises again for awhile. 9:47pm 18oct02 AAAAAAAAAAACK! I would have guessed a different origin for this target. I have no feedback on that part of course... but gee this is disappointing. LOL! http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/pjrv/pj/Session2-10-1&2- feedback.jpg Reply | Forward

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From: "a_healey56" Date: Mon Oct 21, 2002 12:12 pm Subject: Re: Sessions 2.10.1 and 2.10.2 a_healey56 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 PJ, It looks like you started homing in on it from this point on - long and pointed, big flat land, and maybe even the part about pulling something around. Dave P.S. Whoops! Forget to mention the windmill shape. --------------------------- Moderator's note: I must be having a case of wanting it to fit or something, which I don't normally suffer from. If it was truly manmade, just about every piece of data in there could make sense. If not, then I'm deluded. Since there's no feedback on anything but what it looks like though... sigh. Well, my point in putting a few crop circles in the pool, was kind of the same for putting a few documents, a weather map, and other offbeat things in the pool: I was just honestly curious at what kind of data I would get. If I would get nothing but grass, or pick up on the shape, or pick up on how it was created, or what. I've been happy to see so far that I always get something different than I expect. It's making the process fairly novel... PJ Reply | Forward

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From: "Eva" Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 12:11 am Subject: Re: Sessions 2.10.1 and 2.10.2 k9caninek9 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hey PJ, well if you truly view the intent of the tasker, then what you view will have a lot to do with your own interests and desires. Of course, IMO, sessions are often an amalgamation of the intent of the tasker AND the personal issues of the viewer. But in this case, those would be one and the same. I am not surprised that the data seems to answer to a question that was probably of great interest to you. After all, you did make some effort to find a circle you consciously suspected of being real in the first place. I think deep down, your interest did not lay in the feel of floppy wheat and pointy patterns and so not surprisingly, your data reflected that. It seems quite reminiscent of the famous Lyn B. session when he fixated on a crystal doornob and neglected to describe the rest of the house, probably due to his personal hobby and interest in crystals Anyway, that's my armchair psychoanalysis for the day. -E PS, does anyone else think it's like totally hilariously ironic that the term 'psychoanalysis' is made of the words 'psycho' and 'anal?' OK, don't answer that cuz it's off topic. ;-) Reply | Forward

#879

From: "PJ Gaenir" Date: Tue Oct 22, 2002 9:08 am Subject: Re: Sessions 2.10.1 and 2.10.2 dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email I HATE yahoo. HATE them. They just ATE another of my messages. When they force a login they don't let you go back and they don't post forward. May they rot in hell. Well Eva my 30 minute message to you on the nature of intent, reality, session data etc. is going to have to be rewritten some other time. :-( PJ

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