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pjrv : Messages : 1614-1678 of 4038
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From: "PJ Gaenir" Date: Wed Dec 4, 2002 5:27 pm Subject: Sessions dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email I have so many exercise sessions I've lost track of numbering and will have to go back through my lab book and catch up. Anyway... I noticed something vaguely interesting today. Maybe it is an artifact and doesn't really mean anything. Well first off, my sessions stopped for my body. I have noticed this before. I'm a programmer and often very sedentary, and if I don't get exercise, I notice that sometimes it is like I can clearly feel that my nervous system is TRYING to pass something through a part of me -- like one of my legs -- but I'm getting abreactions (little muscle spasms) instead. I can clearly feel that I am losing the data in this process, and it makes me a lot more interested in the asian systems related to the body's meridians and a sort of "subtle" nervous system that is somehow part of and yet possibly slightly more than the one we know about. Why a leg needs to be involved in RV, don't ask me, I have no idea. Where was I - point 2. Well so I had this exercise, not much data, too much abreaction so I kept it short. The primary data I knew related was "long, long" and "sinking" and "big"; the target was an oil drilling platform (offshore); suckey session (not off target, just no real data). So I did another exercise session, where I instantly got long, long -- but separate 'threads or streams' of something that come together in one general shape, pooling, rounded, instant AOL at ideogram point of waterfall, 'streaming' and more AOL on waterfall. The target was 'the waterfall of the gods' -- which I have gotten before (I have 2 copies of most targets in my pool). I have noticed several times that when I do targets close together, the data concepts in the second one which match the feedback in the first one are often more pronounced in my session. This often actually causes me AOL itself because I think, "it CAN'T be, I mean I just had a target with that so maybe I am sort of carrying that over..." I am not certain if one is simply sensitized to a certain kind of info due to the session just completed; or if the feedback previous has opened the psychology for that one particular kind of data being very 'okay to accept' for a brief time; or if it's just some psychological overlay, grafting what is currently in your head onto whatever else that follows. Another separate issue (point 3) I noticed today was, one data point in the WotG exercise was "again." I thought - this was AOL - "again? - Oh - well yeah, long-long, I got that data last session too." But when I saw the feedback, I thought, "I got this target again." I have had a few targets now that I've gotten more than once. My data is usually quite different each time -- but I do seem to be gradually learning to feel a target I've had before. A couple that I've gotten three times, I consciously suspected the third time that it was that target or one incredibly similar to it. I wondered if the reason I *instantly* got a long Id and gut feeling "waterfall" on the second exercise was because I'd had the target before and so in some way was sensitized to it. Once I get my target pool way down to about 150 I'm going to take all my new targets waiting to be added (couple hundred) and my 'favorites' of the previous pool and put about three each into the new pool. I think it is really, really cool to encounter the same target more than once and learn something from that - how you respond to it differently, what you miss consistently, can you recognize it eventually, etc. PJ Reply | Forward

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From: "Eva " Date: Sun Dec 8, 2002 3:58 pm Subject: Re: Sessions k9caninek9 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 This reminds me of a cognitive psych theory in which the idea is that neurons that are used more often get primed which results in them being more sensitive and firing more easily with less stimulation. It was a theory that was used to try to understand memory formation and retrieval. I think it has some correlaries with rv. It often seems to me that stuff that is fresh or stronger in your mind is more easily triggered during a session. That's why you often see people thinking of stuff that had a recent relevence to them or also stuff from their childhood. BOth types of thoughts and memories seem to be stuff that is more entrained in the memory bank. -E > PJ wrote: > I have noticed several times that when I do targets close together, > the data concepts in the second one which match the feedback in the > first one are often more pronounced in my session. pjrv : Messages : 1615-1692 of 4038
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From: Weatherly-Hawaii...m Date: Wed Dec 4, 2002 5:55 pm Subject: Re: Sessions maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha PJ, I kinda like getting a target several times myself...I like the feel of knowing...especially when I am correct!...hahah...I always jot down these impressions in the summary...no matter how I feel about them at the time... The more I write in summary... the more I learn in retrospect...I get so irritated with myself... when I do a session too fast...and write too little... and then want to go over it in the future ...and then realize I left so much out of the summary... dkww > I think it is really, really cool to encounter > the same target more than once and learn something Reply | Forward

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From: greenmn900... Date: Wed Dec 4, 2002 2:03 pm Subject: Re: Sessions greenmn900... Send Email Send Email Hi, > PJ wrote: > "Another separate issue (point 3) I noticed today was, > one data point in the WotG exercise was "again." I > thought - this was AOL - "again? - Oh - well yeah, > long-long, I got that data last session too." But when > I saw the feedback, I thought, "I got this target again."" That kind of all-encompassing, one-word descriptor, in this case for your experience with getting this exact target a second time, is fascinating to me. Ocassionally, I'll get those, where just one word tells the whole tale by itself in an almost unnervingly specific way. It's odd how the same word can be so dead-on accurate but at the same time be so useless and meaningless without the feedback. I've been paying attention to this kind of thing for awhile lately. I'm starting to think that they tend to remain somewhat constant in their meanings from one session to another. It's like the word, and the concept the word defines, act symbolically in the same way over and over again. An example is the word "Aspen". I happened to get a picture of a ski resort as a target about six months ago and I got that word - but the resort wasn't anywhere near Aspen. It seemed to me like I had gotten "Aspen" before one time when the target was a picture of a man refurbishing a pair old snow skis. I looked back through my old sessions from the time period for when I thought I remembered doing it - actually, I was wrong about when I did that target and it ended up taking me hours to find while I kept getting sidetracked looking at old sessions - and I HAD used that word. So, I talked to my wife about it and asked her to make a target, something snow skiing-related, and throw it in the target pool sometime. I want to see if it happens again. I think there might be a couple other words that operate like that for me. I've been looking over old sessions, seeing if I can notice anymore, but I haven't yet. I wondered if this goes on with anyone else? Best regards, Don Reply | Forward

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From: "Eva " Date: Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:56 pm Subject: Terms repeated in sessions- was Re: Sessions k9caninek9 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 I've noticed that happening as well. However, it's been a bit of a catch 22 for me. Once I notice a pattern, the sheer act of noticing the possible significance of the word seems to change the way the word is stored in my head and then later accessed. (that's my current theory anyway) And so the patterns doesn't hold as well anymore after I figure it out. Or maybe it's just that my rv evolves and so old patterns are phased out to make way for new and hopefully more effective ones? -E > Don wrote: > That kind of all-encompassing, one-word descriptor, > in this case for your > experience with getting this exact target > a second time, is fascinating to > me. Ocassionally, I'll get those, where just one > word tells the whole tale > by itself in an almost unnervingly specific way. > It's odd how the same word > can be so dead-on accurate but at the same time > be so useless and meaningless > without the feedback. Reply | Forward

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From: greenmn900... Date: Wed Dec 4, 2002 2:07 pm Subject: Re: Sessions greenmn900... Send Email Send Email Hi, > I think it is really, really cool to encounter > the same target more than once and learn something" Yeah it is. I also love it when I come across a picture of a target I've had before and get additional feedback. Some times you'll realize you were right about an element of your session that wasn't apparent before. It's nice to get unexpected, addtional feedback long after you've done the target. Don Reply | Forward

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From: Weatherly-Hawaii...m Date: Fri Dec 6, 2002 9:21 pm Subject: Re: Sessions maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha, One session (actually3)...I got a building of Asian architecture ...sitting upon the edge of a lake...and the exact image on the land ...was reflected in the water... I got the word TAO every time...it was a hit the first time...and the second and third times...I of course remembered the original viewed photo...the second time I blew it...I assumed it couldn't be the same photo...but the third time... I trusted it and...I got it again... This was over several months time...but has stayed in my currant memory for some reason... Love & Light & Laughter Mali'o...aka...Dawna

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