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pjrv : Messages : 523-577 of 4038
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#523

From: "scottrver" Date: Tue Aug 20, 2002 10:59 am Subject: Self Correcting ARV scottrver Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 I'm in the process of conducting some ARV experiments and had this amusing occurrance yesterday. Before last week's trial I made some updates to my software that included rearranging the scoring summaries to allow for an arbitrary number of ARV choices. For binary decisions the True and False columns got reversed. The sessions came in and got scored. I looked at the scoring summaries, took the appropriate action, and sent a predictive email out to the participant viewers. The event occurred as predicted and I went back into the software to generate the feedback photos. I then noticed that I had misinterpretted the scoring summaries, forgetting about the swapping of the True and False columns. I had acted in the opposite manner of what I should, but unknowingly. Nonetheless, it still worked and I fed back the images based on what my actions had been. So either I got very lucky (given that there was a clear consensus on the outcome) or some aspect of ourselves is smarter than my conscious mind and able to correct for such blunders. I prefer to believe the latter. Scott Reply | Forward

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From: Bill Pendragon Date: Wed Aug 21, 2002 2:32 am Subject: Re: Self Correcting ARV docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > So either I got very lucky (given that there was a > clear consensus on > the outcome) or some aspect of ourselves is smarter > than my conscious > mind and able to correct for such blunders. I > prefer to believe the > latter. Hi Scott, I'll believe the latter. Since everything else in ARV is precog..why not that you switched target definintions. It's totally plausible. BTW do you mind sharing your % correct you get with your ARV group. I'll spill if you do. Best regards, Bill Reply | Forward

#546

From: "scottrver" Date: Wed Aug 21, 2002 10:54 am Subject: Re: Self Correcting ARV scottrver Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi Bill, The number of trials is still too small to draw any solid conclusions from, but thus far we're 7 out of 8 correct with 3 passes. Pass/no pass criteria have been adjusted along the way. Scott > BTW do you mind > sharing your % correct you get with your ARV group. > I'll spill if you do. Reply | Forward

#552

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Wed Aug 21, 2002 4:57 pm Subject: Re: Re: Self Correcting ARV docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi Scott, That's a good start. I'll have to do some calculating on mine now. I've made numerous changes in formats over the last 2 years. BTW I asked Rob Abbott about my idea that ARV loops get corrupted by negative thought forms that one produces from time to time. He thought it was more likely just the concious mind trying to wrest control from the subconcious/RV mind over a period of time. I'm still think somekind of subconcious imprinting or pollution occurs with time in a particular method . And that a new method bypasses the pollution for awhile. Even if it is not actual thought forms.. Best Regards, Bill Reply | Forward

#577

From: Weatherly-Hawaii...m Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 4:00 am Subject: Re: Re: Self Correcting ARV maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha Behfar, hummm...now let me see...I believe that that... would like make you...oh... I don't know...could it be like...wrong?...Do you have an example?... No...I have never tried to do it on purpose...it happens enough all by itself...haha...I have to pracitice some more... before I am ready to deliberately pick the 'wrong' one...I am still working on getting the 'correct' one... Love & Light & Laughter Mali'o...aka...Dawna [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply | Forward

#570

From: "debussy08" Date: Thu Aug 22, 2002 12:47 am Subject: Re: Self Correcting ARV debussy08 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > > So either I got very lucky (given that there was a > > clear consensus on > > the outcome) or some aspect of ourselves is smarter > > than my conscious > > mind and able to correct for such blunders. I > > prefer to believe the > > latter. > > I'll believe the latter. Since everything else in ARV > is precog..why not that you switched target > definintions. It's totally plausible. I second that. However, what would happen if you deliberately chose the "wrong" target as feedback? Has anyone done such an experiment? Behfar --------------- Moderator's note: Boy! That's pushing the concept of the tasker intention 'leading' a project to the limit... I wonder if the result would depend on what the tasker (deep in his heart...) wanted the outcome to be. And if it would matter if the tasker and feedback person were different and the tasker didn't even know? PJ

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