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#2986

From: "ralphburton" Date: Sat Apr 26, 2003 1:39 pm Subject: SARS and the Flu... RalphBurton Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi, This is a *must* read for your health and dealing with flus like SARS. Pass it on to your friends... Ralph Forwarded by Ed T. http://www.brojon.org/frontpage/SARSFEVER.html Reply | Forward

#2988

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Mon Apr 28, 2003 7:30 pm Subject: Re: SARS and the Flu... docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi Ralph, I've heard the burn out a virus theory before.. but never any hard data on it. If anyone ses a reference to a refeed publication on it please pass it on. The consequences of getting too hot during a feverish episode depend on your general health but include heat prostration and brain damage heart attack..not insignificant downsides. But I'm sure there is something positive to it also. Just a little concerned about the downside. Best Regards, Bill --- ralphburton wrote: > Hi, > > This is a *must* read for your health and > dealing with flus like SARS. Pass it on > to your friends... > > Ralph > > Forwarded by Ed T. > http://www.brojon.org/frontpage/SARSFEVER.html > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com Reply | Forward

#2989

From: James Phillip Turpin Date: Wed Apr 30, 2003 3:29 pm Subject: Re: SARS and the Flu... james_p_turpin Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 I haven't been reading refereed journals lately, but people with Ph.D.'s in chemistry have told me about the burning out a virus thing. (The problem is: what gets damaged first, the viruse or the person? Depends on the virus.) What I'm wondering about is the pig-goose-flu connection. I never heard that one before. ------------------------- You guys are WAY too far outside 'experiential psi'. Sorry I'm out of commission here for awhile more. I'll get back to the book reviews in 2-3 weeks. -- PJ Reply | Forward

#2990

From: "intuitwolf" Date: Sun May 4, 2003 1:55 pm Subject: Re: SARS and the Flu... intuitwolf Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Palyne, If you don't want to let this through that's fine -- just wanted to make one comment on the subject of fevers. In the article referenced, you will note that the optimum fever is 101 -- if you closely monitor a fever and keep it hovering for a period of 30 minutes at a time at 101 and DO NOT let it soar above that you can still use the benefits of a fever and not do yourself damage. **Unless**, as Bill pointed out you already have a serious health issue that may be exacerbated by any degree of fever. I have a cousin whose children (when they were infants) all had seizures at anything above 99-100 degrees. So, it's not workable for everyone. Shelia --- In pjrv...oups.com, James Phillip Turpin I haven't been reading refereed journals lately, but people with Ph.D.'s > in chemistry have told me about the burning out a virus thing. (The > problem is: what gets damaged first, the viruse or the person? Depends > on the virus.) > > What I'm wondering about is the pig-goose-flu connection. I never heard > that one before. > > > ------------------------- > You guys are WAY too far outside 'experiential psi'. > Sorry I'm out of commission here for awhile more. > I'll get back to the book reviews in 2-3 weeks. > -- PJ Reply | Forward

#2991

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Wed May 7, 2003 11:12 pm Subject: Re: Re: Was I visited by a ghost? docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hello All, Well some of you probably have ghosts and guides and astral friends visit..but I very rarely have anything like that..and never this. I was asleep, but had a dream that my arms were laying off the bed and that a short smokey ghost came up and held my hands...I could feel "dimples" pressing in all over my arms feeling like I was being touched, and also my arms seem to get paralyzed. and compacted. by the touch with electrical vibrations now running up from them...these are feelings like an OBE I've had before..but just my arms where the ghost touched me. I started trying to pull away so hard I woke myself up.. And said "what a wierd dream"..But I noticed that my arms and body were laying off the bed in EXACTLY the position of the dream.. so that got me thinking perhaps this was an OBE. I stuck my hands back over the edge of bed in the same position as the dream, while still awake just to see what would happen, and started feeling the same ghostly hands on me again!.. G. Now I'm really wondering if it is my imagination or a real experience or what..so I do it twice more with simliar effects... now I'm a little unnerved , I roll on my back.. with my hands over my chest but and try to go to sleep, but then the ghost seems to climb on the bed with me!.. I feel the sheets press down on the bed everywhere the ghost touches and feel my skin "dimple" when "she" ( it had a feminine energy) touches me.. wild!.. and then the ghost climbs right on top of me and grabs me in a rather stimulating way. I sense it is a female ghost so it crosses my mind for a minute "well maybe this is just a bonus for being such a great spiritual person and I should just go along (G). Nothing in the marriage contract about ghost sex".. But then again, lots of bad horror stories about those that give into such ghostly delights. Not seeing what was there that was being so "friendly" was really starting to spook me, I have no idea what "her" intentions were.. . could it be an energy vampire just pretending to be female.of .a lost love from another reincarnation. ???. So finally I say ENOUGH!, I sit up and put wards up all over turn the TV and lights on.. and stay up most of the night..finally it stops.. LOL. Sleep tight All! Bill __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com Reply | Forward

#2992

From: James Phillip Turpin Date: Thu May 8, 2003 5:50 pm Subject: Re: Re: Was I visited by a ghost? james_p_turpin Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 This is a classic description of a succubus/incubus attack. These spirits are, according to consensus and the dictionry, supposed to be 'evil spirits' or 'demons', although there is little to distinguish them from ghosts. They are gnenerally considered very dangerous, espceially if you have not deliberately summonned them. That is, if you have not deliberately summoned them and they are more than hallucination, then regardless of what they are, what they are doing is morally equivalent to rape. And rape is an act of violence, not sex. I recommend exorcisms and banishments and wards according to your belief system and personal tastes. James On Wed, 7 May 2003, Bill Pendragon wrote: > Hello All, > > Well some of you probably have ghosts and guides and > astral friends visit..but I very rarely have > anything like that..and never this. I was asleep, > but had a dream that my arms were laying off the bed > and that a short smokey ghost came up and held my > hands...I could feel "dimples" pressing in all over my > arms feeling like I was being touched, and also my > arms seem to get paralyzed. and compacted. by the > touch with electrical vibrations now running up from > them...these are feelings like an OBE I've had > before..but just my arms where the ghost touched me. I > started trying to pull away so hard I woke myself up.. > And said "what a wierd dream"..But I noticed that my > arms and body were laying off the bed in EXACTLY the > position of the dream.. so that got me thinking > perhaps this was an OBE. I stuck my hands back over > the edge of bed in the same position as the dream, > while still awake just to see what would happen, and > started feeling the same ghostly hands on me > again!.. G. > > Now I'm really wondering if it is my imagination or a > real experience or what..so I do it twice more with > simliar effects... now I'm a little unnerved , I > roll on my back.. with my hands over my chest but and > try to go to sleep, but then the ghost seems to climb > on the bed with me!.. I feel the sheets press down on > the bed everywhere the ghost touches and feel my > skin "dimple" when "she" ( it had a feminine energy) > touches me.. wild!.. and then the ghost climbs right > on top of me and grabs me in a rather stimulating > way. I sense it is a female ghost so it crosses my > mind for a minute "well maybe this is just a bonus for > being such a great spiritual person and I should just > go along (G). Nothing in the marriage contract about > ghost sex".. But then again, lots of bad horror > stories about those that give into such ghostly > delights. Not seeing what was there that was being > so "friendly" was really starting to spook me, I > have no idea what "her" intentions were.. . could it > be an energy vampire just pretending to be female.of > .a lost love from another reincarnation. ???. > > So finally I say ENOUGH!, I sit up and put wards up > all over turn the TV and lights on.. and stay up most > of the night..finally it stops.. LOL. > > Sleep tight All! > > Bill > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search.yahoo.com > > > > . > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > RV Oasis [pjrv] Practical Psi with PJ Gaenir > Subscribe: pjrv-subscribe...oups.com > Unsubscribe: pjrv-unsubscribe...oups.com > Visit Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pjrv/ > Firedocs RV: http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/ > Owner/Moderator: Email to PJ at pj...s.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Reply | Forward

#2994

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Thu May 8, 2003 8:00 pm Subject: Re: Re: Was I visited by a ghost? docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi James, Well it wasnt really rape.. just a very friendly carress..G. The succubus thought passed thru my mind.. but I'm kind of thinking not. I could feel the energy in "its" hands.. it just didn't feel demonic.. it felt human.. as when you feel anothers aura..although I never felt a demonic aura ( that I know of)..but I have felt the aura of people that want to hurt you or take advantage of you and in every case it feels like an unpleasant "cold" electric shock. That wasn't the case. Thanks for your reply Philip. Best Regards, Bill --- James Phillip Turpin wrote: > > This is a classic description of a succubus/incubus > attack. > > These spirits are, according to consensus and the > dictionry, supposed to > be 'evil spirits' or 'demons', although there is > little to distinguish > them from ghosts. They are gnenerally considered > very dangerous, > espceially if you have not deliberately summonned > them. That is, if you > have not deliberately summoned them and they are > more than hallucination, > then regardless of what they are, what they are > doing is morally > equivalent to rape. And rape is an act of violence, > not sex. > > I recommend exorcisms and banishments and wards > according to your > belief system and personal tastes. > > James > > > On Wed, 7 May 2003, Bill Pendragon wrote: > > > Hello All, > > > > Well some of you probably have ghosts and guides > and > > astral friends visit..but I very rarely have > > anything like that..and never this. I was > asleep, > > but had a dream that my arms were laying off the > bed > > and that a short smokey ghost came up and held my > > hands...I could feel "dimples" pressing in all > over my > > arms feeling like I was being touched, and also my > > arms seem to get paralyzed. and compacted. by > the > > touch with electrical vibrations now running up > from > > them...these are feelings like an OBE I've had > > before..but just my arms where the ghost touched > me. I > > started trying to pull away so hard I woke myself > up.. > > And said "what a wierd dream"..But I noticed that > my > > arms and body were laying off the bed in EXACTLY > the > > position of the dream.. so that got me thinking > > perhaps this was an OBE. I stuck my hands back > over > > the edge of bed in the same position as the dream, > > while still awake just to see what would happen, > and > > started feeling the same ghostly hands on me > > again!.. G. > > > > Now I'm really wondering if it is my imagination > or a > > real experience or what..so I do it twice more > with > > simliar effects... now I'm a little unnerved , I > > roll on my back.. with my hands over my chest but > and > > try to go to sleep, but then the ghost seems to > climb > > on the bed with me!.. I feel the sheets press down > on > > the bed everywhere the ghost touches and feel > my > > skin "dimple" when "she" ( it had a feminine > energy) > > touches me.. wild!.. and then the ghost climbs > right > > on top of me and grabs me in a rather stimulating > > way. I sense it is a female ghost so it crosses my > > mind for a minute "well maybe this is just a bonus > for > > being such a great spiritual person and I should > just > > go along (G). Nothing in the marriage contract > about > > ghost sex".. But then again, lots of bad horror > > stories about those that give into such ghostly > > delights. Not seeing what was there that was > being > > so "friendly" was really starting to spook me, I > > have no idea what "her" intentions were.. . could > it > > be an energy vampire just pretending to be > female.of > > .a lost love from another reincarnation. ???. > > > > So finally I say ENOUGH!, I sit up and put wards > up > > all over turn the TV and lights on.. and stay up > most > > of the night..finally it stops.. LOL. > > > > Sleep tight All! > > > > Bill > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > http://search.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > . > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > RV Oasis [pjrv] Practical Psi with PJ Gaenir > > Subscribe: pjrv-subscribe...oups.com > > Unsubscribe: pjrv-unsubscribe...oups.com > > Visit Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pjrv/ > > Firedocs RV: > http://www.firedocs.com/remoteviewing/ > > Owner/Moderator: Email to PJ at pj...s.com > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > . > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com Reply | Forward

#2995

From: James Phillip Turpin Date: Sat May 10, 2003 12:26 am Subject: Re: Re: Was I visited by a ghost? james_p_turpin Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > Hi James, > > Well it wasnt really rape.. just a very friendly > carress..G. The succubus thought passed thru my > mind.. but I'm kind of thinking not. I could feel the > energy in "its" hands.. it just didn't feel demonic.. Just so we are clear about one thing: Like so many distinctions in life, the distinction between ghost and demon is largely arbitrary and subjective. According to the Book Of Enoch (which the 'New Testament' writers recognized as holy scripture even though many who believe in the NT do not), demons _are_ ghosts. And the whoe idea of 'demons' being necessarily intrinsicly evil is entirely a philosophical by-product of extreme monotheism or dualism, and should be taken with a grain of salt. Never-the-less, it must be kept in mind that this particulr type of relationship under discussion has a history of going bad. It is bad form for a summoner to loose control of this type of relationship, and you never had control in the first place, until you decided to put up wards and make it stop. These entities can get more and more jealous as time goes on, until it is virtually impossible for you to maintain a relationship with a living woman. And I don't just mean a sexual relationship. I mean any relationship period. > it felt human.. as when you feel anothers > aura..although I never felt a demonic aura ( that I > know of)..but I have felt the aura of people that want > to hurt you or take advantage of you and in every case > it feels like an unpleasant "cold" electric shock. > That wasn't the case. Many a victim of date rape has said such similar things... Anyway, I think you did the right thing when stopped it. Reply | Forward

#2993

From: aeonblueau8008... Date: Thu May 8, 2003 3:49 pm Subject: Re: Re: Was I visited by a ghost? terri8008 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Heya Bill... Fascinating. sans the succubus (all in the eye of the beholder) (dead rush to Nita or RobertBruces forum) (and you know me and I would have gone with it(blind) . . for all it was worth I've had the odd dream experience- One really strong one was, there a snake coiled in my lap (OK by me) it was mine I could touch and handle it, also... there was an antique telephone on the middle of the table I was sitting at. When I reached and grabbed the telephone, electrical vibrations shot up my arm. Recognizing in the dream, the "Vibrations" I went with the phone and the vibrations, I gave myself over to them. What followed was an extraordinary vivid in control OOB experience for approx 2 hours. Point being, when you placed you arms in a certain location the vibrations ensued. I'd a gone with that. I'd have sucked that up inhaled it with all my being.. not fought it. In all my weird experiences that I give in to or relinquish control(thats a biggie).. I always... in-all-ways come back to " here"(as far as I know).. It's a matter of trust possibly.. independence... all in the eye of the beholder. Sexual connotations IMO are your own.. meebe not I dunno know but my opinion- as you might add(freudian) with a fat slithering snake on my lap..... I ignored it. The touching sensation, I've experienced that often. (oy . . . . I love it!) It will go for long periods where I don't experience it and I start to feel quite lonely, I actually miss it. Once again all in the eye of the beholder, but I like it and encourage it and want it. Giving in to it, or letting it happen . . I never know where the experience is going to go.. but i'm not afraid not chock full of belief systems . . . All's an adventure IMO :) an that's about it- I always shift back to here non the worse for wear .. . always. I trust myself. ~T~ > This is a classic description of a succubus/incubus attack. > > These spirits are, according to consensus and the dictionry, supposed to > be 'evil spirits' or 'demons', although there is little to distinguish > them from ghosts. They are gnenerally considered very dangerous, > espceially if you have not deliberately summonned them. That is, if you > have not deliberately summoned them and they are more than hallucination, > then regardless of what they are, what they are doing is morally > equivalent to rape. And rape is an act of violence, not sex. > > I recommend exorcisms and banishments and wards according to your > belief system and personal tastes. > > James [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply | Forward

#2996

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Sat May 10, 2003 1:13 am Subject: Re: Re: Was I visited by a ghost? docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi Terri, Thanks for the reply. You are quite bold, and I was glad I didn't panic also. BUT inhaling an unknown energy is a different ballgame!. I was hurt once psychically that way.. when I was too cocky for my own good. In fact my sister was also. I was trying to teach her how to feel auras, just as Rob Abbott had taught me, but she was having difficulty believing what she felt..so I wanted the strongest aura I could find. I had been to Chief Seattles grave at the Suquamish Indian Reservation before and at that time felt the strongest Auric Energy anywhere. So I took my sister back to the grave site, which is very nice with twin canoes to take him to the happy hunting ground... I stupidly danced around the sacred grave site even carelessly walking on it , and then we both tuned into the energy at his grave site. She did not know how to open up the way i did. but she felt it immediately and it was strong enough to make her whole arm ache even as a beginner. I then showed off. I literally sucked the energy thru my arm into my heart.. I immediately turned green and started to vomit and nearly fainted!.. I thought I was having a heart attack! It took a week and some remote healing help, before I was back to normal. My sisters whole arm ached and ached and she actually had a sore develope on her palm. So I agree it's good not to be afraid..but one needs to have 1/2 a brain about inhaling things. ..G Best Regards, Bill Reply | Forward

#2997

From: aeonblueau8008... Date: Sat May 10, 2003 12:26 pm Subject: Re: Re: Was I visited by a ghost? terri8008 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hiya Bill.... My first experience with quote unquote exterior or interior entities, I've written the story many time before on many lists, happened during my Gateway Program at Monroe Inst., I was slammed down to the size of a golf ball forced into the throat chakra (I could actually 'see' out of my neck as tho my eyes were located there, I could see the underside of my chin) .. by 3 lovely glowing white entities, that turned demonic or grotesque when I confronted them, looked the straight in the eyes, then they preceded to skillfully overwhelm me, I think they fed on my terror. I was very very naive back then. Still - nearly having the wee wee scared out of my,and I think actually I was in mild shock, I still stayed with the program and worked 2 more that year.. The above experience was the closest to the dreaded unknown, possibly dying or.. somehow I knew it could get worse.. but I couldn't fathom just what was worse. Since then I've had other visitors, "mergers", usually happening in the twilight state of sleep or upon waking, a few times during a HemiSync tape. The touching, I written about that also. Never was it stronger than when I did Exploration27 program at Monroe. It rattled me, so I did open my eyes, break the altered state and actually looked to see who/what the hell was crawling up my body and who/what had their hands in my hair. Of course there was nothing there. Drifting back to altered state the touching returned and I just kind of settled with it, it felt like a curious babe in total innocence exploring every inch of my body, so be it- fine with me. ('cpet my roomie in X27 was pinched and hard :))))), she had the touching phenomena also, but I've never been hurt) I experience the 'touching' every so often and seems to come and go in spurts. I am to the point where I LIKE it, I even asked for it, it's like an old lost friend returning. It's a lovely feeling to feel the edge of my bed sink down as tho someone is sitting on it, I know I have a visitor. One good/strong experience I had was a visitor in the early morning that woke me up.. his body (very foreign energy than I was used to not ET, not human) very firm and warm and brown skinned, youthful. Thing was 'it' seemed to have the head of an elephant, and some kind of trunk, not to mention what appeared to be tusks... still the experience bordered on the erotic. I knew I had seen this entity somewhere, finally identified him/it as Vishnu or Ganesh.. ones a sometimes bore head, ones an elephant head each hindu 'god' indicating something different in the religion. Anyway.. nothing ever happens to me, nothing have ever attached itself to me, nothing has ever abducted me (well just once, but they wouldn't keep me) and I am totally open to all those type experience, desire them. It may depend on how strong and independent you are mentally or spiritually, and what belief systems you incorporate. I don't know what to believe.. so I just don't know. I dumped most of my fear as when I experience fear 'out there' it seems to snowball and consume me faster than anything I've ever seen. All I know is what ever happens or occurs with me OOB or other.. I always shift back to here and now, most of time horribly disappointed that I did return .. In whatever negative (in my own eyes) experience I have encountered, all they have come to mean to me are lessons, and most likely inflicted on myself by myself. IMO I can give as well as I can take, even pushing the limit at times.. all for the best I expect, yeah I inhale- Best .. ~T~ > Thanks for the reply. You are quite bold, and I was > glad I didn't panic also. BUT inhaling an unknown > energy is a different ballgame!. I was hurt once > psychically that way.. when I was too cocky for my own > good. In fact my sister was also. I was trying to > teach her how to feel auras, just as Rob Abbott had > taught me, but she was having difficulty believing > what she felt..so I wanted the strongest aura I could > find. I had been to Chief Seattles grave at the > Suquamish Indian Reservation before and at that time > felt the strongest Auric Energy anywhere. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply | Forward

#2999

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Sun May 11, 2003 6:56 pm Subject: Re: Re: Spirit encounters docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hello Teri, Well actually I've talked to other people attending Gateway that had "strange" encounters. But one question about your suggestions: since you weren't there(?) why were you so sure there was no sexuality in the "ghost" encounter?? Best Regards, Bill Reply | Forward

#3012

From: aeonblueau8008... Date: Mon May 12, 2003 3:12 pm Subject: Re: Re: Spirit encounters terri8008 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 (Bill writes) Well actually I've talked to other people attending Gateway that had "strange" encounters. . . . well that's why we all go I assume, folks who don't have experience of some kind are $orely di$apointed- (Bill) But one question about your suggestions: since you weren't there(?) why were you so sure there was no sexuality in the "ghost" encounter?? . . . . you lost me here hun- you're(?) ghost encounter.. it was sexual.. go for it. I mean like what's really really gonna happen- a wet spot on the sheets after a dream ? best ~T~ Reply | Forward

#3009

From: "ravenmoon0802" Date: Mon May 12, 2003 5:47 pm Subject: Astral sex / ghost sex ravenmoon0802 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 I have had various experiences with astral sex. I have never had ghost sex, though I think more of them as soul sex union with someone you may or may not have a prior connection. I enjoy "soul touching" as that is what I really think it is. One can have union in spirit / soul with any other energy out there. My partner is from Australia. I shocked her with this "gift" in one of our earlier meetings. We met online in a chat room and she was having a problem because of a psy vamp attaching to her. I went into a private conversation with her and worked with her in astral. I behaved myself as I was there to help and get rid of the energy problems and hooks she had in her, but I was definately attracked to her. We got to know each other over the next few days and when I told her I could touch anyone I had an energy connection to she said prove it, so I did. The next words out of her via keyboard were "OMG" then "Look Ma, no hands" meaning she wasn't doing anything to herself yet was getting an incredible sexual experience. I have soul touched with lots of people and with energies or God/dess forms. I practice magick and have for a long time, so manipulating energy is second nature to me. That woman I wrote of is not my real life partner and has been for 3 years. We are capable of a great many things in this realm as well as others, and so are other entities as I am sure you all already know. My goal now is to practice RV and get my eyes. I do not see in astral the way is described in RV text and I want to. I don't want to lessen my current abilities, but I want to go and do many more things, thus my joining this list. Thanks, Christina Reply | Forward

#3020

From: "starry_amethyst_sky" Date: Tue May 13, 2003 12:21 am Subject: Re: Was I visited by a ghost? starry_ameth... Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi Bill :) Did you get any idea what this entity looked like? I'm kinda getting a picture of short light brown or dirty blond hair. Pink or light red clothes. At first guess I'd say it was an incubus, but if its still hanging around after you put up wards, then its probably not. They would have just moved on to someone else, an easier target who didnt know how to get rid of them. Could be a lover from a past life, but they might also be around at other times, like during the day. But then again when youre almsot asleep youre more open. You could try burning some sandalwood incense, it can be substituted for any other kind and is good for clearing out any weird/misplaced vibes in the air. Has anyone else, including pets, sensed it as well? ASk them what feeling they got from it. If your gut is telling you to keep up your wards and make it stay away, theres a reason. As for the vibrations, I know what you mean. Are they like overwhelming? It doesnt happen to me that often, but when it does my whole body starts vibrating, my whole body is paralyzed, and i can open my eyes but not really see. Like hearing something but not listening. When it first started happening, I'd just let myself go and let them go away on their own, enjoying the high. At the time we were living in this old house built in the twenties, an old lady died in the room that was now mine. One night while having these vibrations, i actually saw her ghost. It was like she was sucking out my energy. Since i couldnt move, just feel the vibrations, i was scared because i had sensed her around before and got a bad feeling. I tried screaming, my cousin has a doberman, and she always left when he was around, but no sound came out. Finally she left and then i did some research and lots of other people have had this happen. Its called "hagging". When you cant move and you see an old lady who sucks your energy. (Needless to say, I no longer let uninvited vibrations happen). Maybe thats what happened to you, but with someone younger. One theory is that spirits are able to avoid the second death, when their etheric/astral energy drains away and they go to heaven or wherever. Thne they usually need to take living energy to stay in the astral. Did you notice if this entity is younger, like died just a short while ago? Or an older one from a past life? And just for fun, were your bed sheets at the time dark green or blue? Thats the color I saw when you described it lol. Hope you can get something out of all that :) Tricia Reply | Forward

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From: Bill Pendragon Date: Tue May 13, 2003 12:25 pm Subject: Re: Re: Was I visited by a ghost? docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi Tricia, The only time I saw the entity was during the dream. Once I awoke I could only "feel" it. But during the dream portion..I noted that "she" was short ( almost child size) and had smokey blond hair.. That's all. The face and the rest of the torso was just smoke in the dream. I see you matched pretty well what I could see. Good job. Best Regards, Bill

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