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pjrv : Messages : 218-221 of 4038
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#218

From: "dennanm" Date: Wed Jul 24, 2002 11:03 pm Subject: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email The other day in my practice session, I wasn't getting much in the way of data.... and then I got some data, a sense of 'layers', and I drew a sort of sketch of the type, like liquid layers, and then suddenly, I could feel.... my heart. My chest. So heavy... my heart felt so heavy. The next data I got felt as if it came "through" my physical chest, like it entered through my back or something, and then came out the front, and then I perceived it. It was black, black sand, black dirt, black chips.... and I was quite intrigued by the feeling in my chest. I got data of 'like a building, next to water...', and aol on "OARS" and nothing more. The feedback turned out to have very little in it: from a very high view looking down, a ship, in water, and a massive, massive black oil spill in the water and up on the coast. It was the Exxon Valdez. I thought about this for awhile afterward. I decided in retrospect that perhaps the feeling of heaviness in my chest was almost a 'sadness' - but of course, it is easy to speculate after the fact; all I wrote down in the session (dang it) was that the data felt like it was coming through my chest. I assume this is simply a heart- chakra response, but that's an assumption. So the next day, I was doing an archetype meditation on "Fear of Failure in the Context of Remote Viewing". The arch was humanoid, but a sickly green and a sickly yellow with a fish head of all things! That was novel. After fixing him up a bit, I had an insight, and I said to him, "The fish head; this tells me that some of these issues stem from the womb, is that correct?" He said, "Yes. And also genetically passed issues from your parents." I pondered. He had this long hard pole that went from just above his right hip, up through his torso, and through his head, sticking way out the top. I changed focus to everything in energy state, drained the energy out, arranged the energy so his physical body would be solid there, and then rematerialized them. I looked at it. "It's a harpoon!" I said in surprise. "Does this mean, something that profoundly affected me while I was in fish -- er, pre-born state?" He said yes. I've never had anything in meds before that refers to stuff prior to birth. Anyway, he also had a tall thin rectangle sticking right out of the crown of his head. This is not too unusual -- archs often have weird stuff sticking in them, out of them, whatever -- it's all symbolic. So I moved it to energy, and then vanished it -- and as I did so, I felt the most intense "fuzzy pain" -- that seemed to exactly match my visualization about his protrusion -- in the back of my right hand. I thought, "Wow. So... whatever that was... it... um... stored in my body in the back of my right hand?" Bill P. mentioned on another list some psychic who feels data about earth changes in her body, and predicts certain things based on that. So this then got me thinking about what we feel in our body. Then I realized that it's not just about whether psi info comes through our body; really, there is probably tons of info that comes through our body, that we're not aware of. Which reminded me of something in my journal from years ago, related to color, so I decided I would paste it into this email. Took me two days to find it though. ----------------- Around 1996 I was living in Seattle. My car needed fixing and I was taking the city bus to get to work. It was a long route, and I leaned my head against the window of the bus and sighed. I tried to go to sleep, but it was far too bouncy and I kept getting my head banged against the glass. Finally I just sat back and stared blandly out the window for awhile, with my eyes not really focusing on anything. After some time, I realized that I could feel something inside my body. I wasn't even sure what it was at first. Something inside me. Some correlation outside me. I was a bit "spaced out" (altered state) from the monotony of the bus ride, so it took a bit to make the connection. Finally I figured it out: I could "feel" where "colors" were "touching" me. I'd see a color out the window--something I'd focus upon--and I'd feel it in my torso, such as "kind of near the liver." I'd see a different color and I'd feel it "over here" instead. Every color, I could feel the "impact inside me" of it. It took a bit of time to actually become clear, what was 'causing' this feeling inside me. And when it did, it was so offbeat and unexpected, I suddenly got a lot more alert and thought to myself, "I've gotta be kidding! Is this possible?!" I began to realize that the same colors impacted me in the same place. This got my attention, how consistently the different colors "impacted me" in the same area inside. Being a logical sort, this somehow seemed more relevent to me than the general fact that I could feel colors. I began marveling at this, thinking that color might mean a lot more than we know. I thought about how the colors we surround ourselves with must effect our health without our knowing it, if such colors really can be felt by the body. I noticed that when I looked at artificial colors--say the green on a billboard--it didn't affect me nearly how the green in a rich tree would. It was so mild I could hardly sense it, as if it were diluted and incomplete somehow; but "real" things I could feel almost as clearly inside me as I might feel a person touching me. I made the mental note that this is why it took me a few minutes to figure out what was happening. I really only "felt" it at any degree worth noticing when I was looking at something 'real'. As I looked for things to view, to "feel" their effect, I became aware of how much of the landscape was actually dead. I looked in one direction and what did I see? Apartment houses; parking lots; streets; billboards; signs and storefronts; a freeway; only here and there did I see anything alive, usually a tree. I had never really noticed this before. This "effect" went on for nearly 1.5 hours on the way to work--3 different buses and waits at the bus stops. From the last bus I had to walk a few blocks around to the building where I was working. There was a little mini-park nearby that I always wanted to visit, but I normally didn't go that route, as I seldom had time. But the bus was running just a couple minutes early that morning so I decided to take a detour. A winding sidewalk took me through very nice landscaping and little benches. There were some flowers blooming here and there along the path, and I was astonished at how "pure and clean and powerful" the "feeling inside me" was with the flowers, as if they were some kind of "concentrated" color, somehow different than other sources of color. I wondered if gems would be the same. I wondered if this is why flowers and gems are so loved by people (in general). I continued walking the winding pathway and musing about such things. As I rounded a tall hedge, at the moment my eyes landed upon something I felt as if I were nearly knocked me off my feet! WHAM! -- Right in the heart!! I stopped short, mouth open in awe, in front of red rose bush. The effect of an entire bush of vividly deep red roses was such a "concentrated dose" that it literally took my breath away. This hit my body before my brain had any real chance to make any conscious notes about the flower or color. The feeling inside was SO powerful-- I am trying to think of words for something like that.... In the optometrists' office there is a machine that blows air on your eye. It has a super-brief but powerful feeling. It kind of felt as if something like that had "hit" my heart "from the inside." Not in any bad way -- in a GREAT way. But it was THAT sudden, shocking and impossible not to notice. It was so *physical* and intense. As I stood there, still astonished, I thought to myself, "Wow! Maybe it's no coincidence that red and roses are associated with love! It really does affect the heart! So subconsciously, maybe humanity kind of figured out that if you see red roses, it affects your heart in some positive way. I mean I know it isn't conscious, but surely these things are 'innately' known, if true at all?" This led me to a couple of minutes of thinking about how we have associated "love" with the "heart," when modern science might say it is merely a chemical manufactured by the brain. Yet in some clear but wordless way, it seemed "right" to me that considering "the heart" a focus for "love" feelings in a person was accurate. I remembered a couple of times in my life when I was stricken with the most intense grief, from someone I loved dying, and how astonished I was during those times that my chest actually hurt, and how "heartbreak" seemed so literal. I got to the other edge of the park. I wanted to go back through it, and feel the feelings inside me again, but it was time to go to work. When I got to the building I worked in, I found it interesting how the office affected me. I took the elevator up, and walked through the building looking for something to "ping against" -- to "feel" like somehow the color was "rebounding inside me". But nothing was real inside, another observation I hadn't made before; bad lighting and bland colors, neutrals, and so much artificial. It was if I had walked into some kind of dead-zone. Dead inside, too -- I felt nothing. As my coworkers said hello and I walked toward my office, I had to quell the urge to turn and run--back outside to the beauty that was alive inside me, and away from what suddenly seemed like a plastic and rather surreal prison. I wondered how mankind had gotten to the point of not MINDING that we trap ourselves in such dead environments. I suspected it's that we have become so inured that we can't feel anything, so it doesn't seem to matter. I told myself that it was all very interesting, but I had things to do. So I focused on my work . . . and by breaktime, the perception had passed. PJ Reply | Forward

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From: "stanley01420" Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 7:27 am Subject: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies stanley01420 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 You know PJ .. *all* of mankind hasn't trapped themselves in dead environments. Feng Shua (I probably spelled it wrong) is a way to put oneself into a soul nurturing environment. It's modern industrialized countries that do this most. I think it's because they view people as parts of a machine.. assets to be used or liabilities to be discarded. That's going to change.. mary ------------------- Moderator's Note: Feng Shui. I know about that; have a couple books on it and try to use those principles when I can. However Feng Shui is not so much about making one's environ alive as making it 'balanced' energetically. It seemed to me during the experience that most of it was the lack of anything living; beyond that, was the lack of any good colors or light. Suddenly the idea of 'being in nature' seemed so life-giving. -- PJ pjrv : Messages : 228-235 of 4038
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#228

From: "nita...ulse.com" Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 8:21 pm Subject: Re: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies nitahickok Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi PJ I am working through Franz Bardon's Intiation into Hermetics. In sections one and two it has mental exercises. Part of these is to introspectively set up all your good qualities in one soul mirror and all you bad qualities in another soul mirror. You list these according to the elements that are affected by each flaw or good qualities. You then work to overcome the problems and try to reduce the number of flaws. It also gives you a level of control to work off of like your archmed meditation. The belief is that once you achieve elemental equilibrium then you have a great deal more control over all your inner and outer selves. It increases the ability to get a lot of different methods and talents to work properly and dependably. Nita Half the spiritual life consists in remembering what we are up against and where we are going. Ayya Khema "When the Iron Eagle Flies." ---------------------- Moderator's note: Cool. Elemental equilibrium's a double meaning in hermetics of course! Sounds interesting. If I'd followed (for any length) any of the grand plans in great books I've had or have, I'd surely be a different person at the moment. I have been rereading some Jane Roberts and Seth books of late. Crowley and Roberts/Seth are pretty much my favorite writers when it comes to "disciplined efforts" toward conscious evolvement. Jane is the only author I've encountered at length that addresses the psychic politics of "Aspects of Self" -- most other views deal with all such things as external energies -- and I tend to "internalize" everything, so her take on that works better for me. Btw to the list at large, sorry I've been sluggish with messages and approvals lately, I've been busy writing up some stuff for my website, and a small interview for HRVG's "On Target" newsletter, and work, and [snore... I know]. It looks like we'll be skipping a week of practice targets but I'll have more up by Monday I expect. -- PJ Reply | Forward

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From: Karl Boyken Date: Sat Jul 27, 2002 9:33 am Subject: Re: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies kboyken Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 [pj wrote] >there is some obscure fact about natal fluid, like it has >exactly the same % salinity as the sea or something like that. I'm trying to think of how I'd work with something like that in dream work. Fish have all kinds of associations. There's the old Sumerian myth about the fish people who come out of the sea; there's the Christian symbology (especially considering the fish-head man had been speared). But it's great when something springs up intuitively on its own like that. Did you know that at one point in fetal development, we have gill slits on our necks? Karl ------------------ Moderator's Note: No, I didn't know that. Cool! :-) Archetype meds, though they're 'conscious dreaming', I have to treat a lot like I treat remote viewing. If I get something as information/data/symbol, I can't really work on 'figuring out' what it means or I'm doomed. I just "allow it to be". If I'm lucky, it'll "come to me" intuitively. If I'm not, it won't, but if I don't try and left-brain it into a certain meaning I'm better off. That's why the TMI F12 helps me in these meds -- the more altered my state of mind, the more my Lbrain gets out of the way. Speaking of dreams, last night I dreamed the house I was standing in was falling, like an elevator falling, then realized consciously I was in a dream and OBE and was misinterpreting the 'body falling away' feeling and writing it into the dream script -- and I leaped up in delight and went off to explore. Been awhile since I did that consciously in sleep, I think all the F12 stuff (during waking hours) must be helping. -- PJ pjrv : Messages : 220-287 of 4038
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#220

From: Karl Boyken Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 8:43 am Subject: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies kboyken Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 PJ, I don't remember ever running across an association between fish and the womb. Where does that come from? Your own symbology, or some other source? This is a great thread, btw. -- Karl Boyken kboyken...t http://soli.inav.net/~kboyken/ We dance 'round in a ring and suppose, while the Secret sits in the middle and knows. --Robert Frost Reply | Forward

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From: joan003...nk.net Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 10:04 am Subject: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies joanie003 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 <> PJ, This is true. I have met quite a few "body workers" - acupuncturists and massage therapists and even energy workers that have helped people to re-member consciously about trauma memories that are stored in the body. Often the trauma is so deep that the person is not consciously aware and this is largely a protective measure for the psyche. A healthy psyche, especially as a child, will dissociate to protect itself during severe trauma and it often is through the body that the memory is brought back and the trauma can be released. This goes for "past-life" memories as well. I think with respect to psi in general, this is why Lyn Buchanan and other teachers like Pru Calabrese characterize remote viewing as a physical activity as well (Pru's knosomatics). The ideogram is a way that expresses psi information through the body. Some teachers employ other body movements as well to help bring in the data. In the Spirit, Joanie Reply | Forward

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From: "nita...ulse.com" Date: Thu Jul 25, 2002 12:32 pm Subject: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies nitahickok Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi PJ I had the time to do a meditation on a fear like what you have been doing I took the time to do it before I went to sleep. I have to comment that I slept better and woke up with a lot of calmness for the day. I worked upon my fear of failure. I meditated on it and went down a winding corrider that curved and went deep into the earth. I came out into a beautiful calm place and then looked around. I saw what looked like a weird shaped person covered in black swarming bees. I got rid of the bees and then saw that the person had parts of itself in the wrong place and what looked like darts stuck into it. I worked on taking out all of the darts and putting the parts back into the right places. I was completely done and it turned into a handsome man that was colored gold and surrounded by gold energy. I got up this morning and it was just like that fear had never existed. I am going to try a few more but it should really mesh with my soul mirror work and help me progress on a few things I have been doing. Nita Half the spiritual life consists in remembering what we are up against and where we are going. Ayya Khema "When the Iron Eagle Flies." Reply | Forward

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From: Bill Pendragon Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 1:13 pm Subject: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi Nita, Lovely meditation work. It sounds almost like a lucid dream. I wonder if one could do the same type of meditative work for ones own psychic blocks... to remember OBE's, reduce AOL's , or use it to help remove reasons for DISPLACMENT ( arrrggggg) from ARV methodologies??? Please try it and tell us what happens? Best Regards, Bill Reply | Forward

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From: "dennanm" Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:12 pm Subject: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Hiya doc, --- In pjrv...ill Pendragon It sounds almost like a lucid dream. Another term for these kind of meds is 'conscious dreaming'. > I wonder if one could do the same type > of meditative work for ones own psychic blocks... Yes. Blocks of any kind. They're the hardest thing to do, though. I once spent 4.5 hours in a grueling med to get rid of one I could clearly sense but not define, years ago when I lived in Portland. The block came in concept as such a substantial, "intelligent wall", that I did the only thing I could with it -- I gave it a different job in my psychology as a giant door, so it could 'evolve'. It has continued to be present in my meds now and then and appears to be a nearly autonomous intelligence, or at least I perceive it that way. Blocks are VERY difficult for me to do; when I finally succeeded it was by using the concept in the Medusa and reflective shield mythos! Because I couldn't face it directly, my mind just "slid off" onto other things. After the med, I got something to eat, and about an hour later felt suddenly like I should lie down, and I laid down and literally "fell through my body" into an extremely conscious OBE, where I found myself "looking for" the "entities" who had placed that block in me (in childhood). Had an experience too weird to post here! And later wondered if finding them -- and merging, and remembering nothing -- had (a) replaced the block, and (b) been some kind of post-hypnotic command on their part. Sheesh it's enough to make one paranoid, LOL! -- good thing I'm so polly about that stuff... > remember OBE's, reduce AOL's , or use it to help > remove reasons for DISPLACMENT Anything that has a psychological base can be addressed through these meditations. However reasons for various things in life may be multiple, not singular, and may take awhile of intelligently directing what to meditate on, to cover. Best regards, PJ Reply | Forward

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From: Bill Pendragon Date: Mon Jul 29, 2002 5:58 pm Subject: Re: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi Palyne, Did you post a website to learn that meditative treatment technique. The frustration I have in ARV is that I start a "new" method and I usually get up to a p value over 99% positive..then get all excited and guess what I have a big string of misses ( again significanlty missing). So there must be some psychological or psychic or karmic issues. Slightly off topic but along with issues. My sister brought a giant Christmas tree ( about 20 feet ) into her hand built log cabin last Christmas.. but it turned out to be loaded with 1000's of these striped spiders with long legs. The darn things were very aggressive for about a week and the whole family woke up every morning with multiple swollen spider bites. And they declared war killing 100's but she started feeling guilty about killing so many and made a mental peace treaty that if they stopped biting she would stop killing. And quess what.. no more spider bites for anyone in her family, but the house if full of 1000's of these spiders and they eat all the other bugs and the "wild" spiders... There is a message here! Why did the spiders attack at first?.. was the "war" necessary to get a peace treaty..or was it just the effort to mentally reach out to the spiders? Best Wishes, Bill Reply | Forward

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From: "dennanm" Date: Tue Jul 30, 2002 3:06 pm Subject: RV Psychology; and Spiders dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email >--- In pjrv...ill Pendragon Did you post a website to learn that meditative > treatment technique. No, but I'll have an article on it posted on firedocs pretty soon. The first post I wrote on archmeds was all on how to do it. > The frustration I have in ARV is > that I start a "new" method and I usually get up to a > p value over 99% positive..then get all excited and > guess what I have a big string of misses ( again > significanlty missing). So there must be some > psychological or psychic or karmic issues. I think anybody who doesn't have some psychological issues in long- term viewing is highly out of the norm. Decades of research indicate this is the norm, and research around the world indicates an initial high success then 'falloff' is the norm. (Eventually, with regularity, it is said to come back - to differing degrees depending on the person.) Even the best in the world and even after decades of daily work, there are still misses. Sometimes 'the reason' for the misses becomes clear in retrospect and it relates to certain situational or belief elements that can be dealt with. In any case it seems to be part of life. I think dealing with failure in RV is a lot harder than any other aspect of it. > turned out to be loaded with 1000's of these striped > spiders with long legs. Oy! Yesterday I was mowing my backyard. 25% of it must have a water leak from a tree cut down that was in the lines. The lawn I've been looking at out my sitting room window is just fine. The 25% I couldn't see was up to my thighs! When I moved my little girl's "house-thing", big hard rubber structure kids play on, this huge spider, the size of my palm, black and white striped, HOPPED off and across the flagstones nearby. I mean it like bounced really high! I'd never seen such a thing! (I'm not from this region.) There were a few of them. (She was screaming like crazy until I pointed out they were just scared and trying to get away from the mower. When she realized they were more afraid than she was, then she got curious.) When I came back in, I read your post, lol, seemed like a coincidence. > The darn things were very > aggressive for about a week and the whole family woke > up every morning with multiple swollen spider bites. I think culture-wide we have so-called subconscious negative feelings toward most bugs and especially spiders. On their own level of consciousness I think they know this. We see them as the enemy, so they see us as the enemy. > peace treaty that if they stopped biting she would > stop killing. And quess what.. no more spider bites Good! That's great. Well I've been digging and I can't find my write up about the Spider Deva. Darn it, I know I already wrote this up somewhere, I assumed on Rhea White's EHE list, but I couldn't find it, so I'll have to write it all again. In Sep 95 I moved into an apt in Seattle. I was alone (my husband in Canada) and had no furniture moved in yet. The first night I walked into the living room and the largest black spider I have ever seen in my life was on the wall. Another inch, it would have been a tarantula. I stood against the opposite wall and hyperventilated. Now, I used to have a genuine phobia of them. Even the word 'spider' spoken, when I knew it was coming, nearly stopped my heart. I conditioned myself out of this at age 18 as part of my determination to not be afraid of anything. Still, that didn't mean I wanted to be around them, and I'd never seen one so huge. For all I knew it was deadly, I was not from that region. And I was sleeping on the floor! I edged backward around the corner to the hall, to my room, and tucked a blanket under the door hoping it wouldn't get me in there, and went to bed. I was too scared to go anywhere near it. I woke up in the dark and had to pee REALLY bad. I got up and walked across the hall to the bathroom, turned on the light and walked in -- and this gigantic spider was right in the middle of the bathroom floor! I almost fell backward out the door avoiding stepping on it. But I *really* had to go. :-) Right on the counter, I had a medium- sized, clear tupperware bowl. It was empty, but I'd had soapy water in it earlier while cleaning. I had to go SO bad, I grabbed the bowl, dropped it inverted over the spider (imprisoned it), and then just took a flying leap over it. :-) And I hopped over the bowl going back to bed. It was the next morning sometime when I had the strangest, subtle sense. It kept going on "underneath" my regular level of consciousness, and I would 'almost' catch it. Then finally, after consciously noticing it, the next time it came, I understood it. I felt that I was SO frustrated. I was so hungry! I was so trapped! This horrible prison, I couldn't escape! I was starting to feel desperate. Now this was just as the 'Bewilderness' years were ending for me, so perceptions of other lives, other realities, were not real unusual, but this didn't feel like that. It felt... 'small'. I don't know how to describe it. If a small mouse whispered, it would 'sound small' compared to a person whispering; somehow, the senses had that equivalent, psychically. Then I abruptly realized: It's the spider! I "knew" it inside me. I went into the bathroom and stared at it under its bowl. It was so damned big. I squatted down next to the bowl, and for some reason, poured out my heart to it. Told it how frightened I was of it, and just didn't want spiders in my house. How its size so frightened me that I hadn't even had the courage to just put it out. How sorry I was that my own stupid fear had caused me to behave so badly toward it. How I would put it outside and I hoped it would find food and survive okay. I went and got a paper plate and slid it under the bowl, and carried it down three flights of stairs, and gently put it into the neighbor's bushes. The next day, I sat down for my morning meditation, and the minute I cleared my mind, WOW! This amazing image "hit" me -- incredibly visual -- incredibly conceptual. It was one of these spiders, but the concept was clear, this was the ULTIMATE of its species. The god- model like a spiritual blueprint. It was a 'she' in concept. It was gigantic to my sense. And it pinged on a white background, so its blackness was incredibly black. Its legs were glossy to the point of nearly blue. I could sense every single "hinge" of how its legs were made. And I felt a profound sense I had only felt associated with 'God' at that point -- of GLORY. I sensed that it was the most amazing, perfect, well-designed, creation-of-god-consciousness imaginable. I was literally in AWE. And the clear sense that came with all of that was, "Thank You." I came out of that abruptly, going, WHOA! That must have been a Deva! I've heard of them, but never met one! I lived there for a year and a half. My neighbors complained of spiders; we were surrounded on 3 sides by trees that touched the buildings often. I never saw another spider of any kind in that apartment. -- Until not long before I moved out. I was sitting in my room (which was also my office) one night, and I was thinking about when I moved in, and that incident. I thought how novel it was that I had never seen a spider since. And I thought to myself, with an almost affection, "It would be okay now. I meant, I wouldn't mind if there was a small spider somewhere in here. No big deal." The next morning, a spider crawled its way across the ceiling of my room while I worked. I eyed it curiously. It built a little web in each corner of the room. I was thinking how curious it was, it had showed up right after I'd sort of 'given permission' in a way. Crawling around, it got close to over me, and it had some kind of pattern, and I thought mildly, "I wish I could see it closer." It DROPPED from the ceiling on a thread to right in front of my face in an instant -- I fell over backward in my chair and yelped! I mean, INSTANT response to my thought! Scared the crap outta me, LOL! I was really amazed then. I looked at as it just hung there, spinning slowly around. It was yellow and black, striped. And I had to admit, that if one didn't have a prejudice, you'd have to say it was beautiful, a very cool design. Finally I thought, "Er, OK. I've seen it now!" And it instantly began crawling up its thread. I watched it with my eyes wide -- it honestly seemed as if the spider world was responding to my every thought or something. It went around to its webs regularly, looking for food. I felt a sense of affection about it that I know sounds weird, but I really did. When you remove all feeling of 'threat/fear' you find that you tend to feel affectionate about most things, that is my experience. One night, not long later, I had that subtle sense again. Hungry. So hungry. Geez, so hungry so long. [A feeling we might translate like a sigh.] I'm going to die. [A feeling we might translate like, "Darn. Well, I guess it is inevitable, so I will accept it. Still, wish it weren't so. Oh well."] The "small psychic whisper" felt exactly like the spider had when I moved in, and I looked up at the spider in the corner -- and knew I was picking up and "translating to my human concepts" its "small feelings". I realized, the room is screened, the door is often closed, there are no bugs in here -- it had been starving since it arrived. I watched it for awhile. I felt such.... COMPASSION for it, it is difficult to describe. Those who've read my 'Rainbow of Soul' chapter in Bewilderness know that I consider myself to be a "conglomerate" of energy -- identity is a very complex subject. I had a thought and inclination I'd never had before. All at once, I understood the concept of you are what you eat, and I understood why I often felt that eating peppers (which I think are wonderful and beautiful) was 'honoring' them. I looked at the spider and I whispered, "Come with me. Be part of me. Be part of a human, experience life with me. I'd be honored to have your energy join me." I sincerely meant it. And I went to bed. The next morning when I woke up, as I got up, I saw the spider was dead. Its body was curled up in the web where it had been the night before. I understood. I never figured anybody else would, though. PJ Reply | Forward

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From: "dennanm" Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:04 pm Subject: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Hi Nita, --- In pjrv...nita...nita...rote: > I saw what looked like a weird > shaped person covered in black swarming > bees. I got rid of the bees and then > saw that the person had parts of itself > in the wrong place and what looked > like darts stuck into it. I worked on > taking out all of the darts and > putting the parts back into the right places. > I was completely done and it > turned into a handsome man that was colored > gold and surrounded by gold energy. A nice example of an archetype meditation. That you were able to "let it be what it wanted to be" and work with that speaks well of your intuitive skill. It took me awhile recently to get 'back in the swing of things' again where truly spontaneous and surprising things would happen in a med. > it should really mesh with my soul mirror > work and help me progress on a few things What is soul mirror work? I am gradually working through issues related to RV in the meditations. It's not easy to do a dozen a day though, it takes awhile. I have a second kind of meditation I mix in with archmeds that I call my 'control center' meds. The last one I did was DNA related (that's just what the controller came up with - as spontaneous as shapes or bees or...) and I feel a sort of need to "give it space and time" and integrate for a few days. Regards, PJ Reply | Forward

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From: "dennanm" Date: Fri Jul 26, 2002 7:17 pm Subject: Re: RV (or other) Data and Our Bodies dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email --- In pjrv...arl Boyken PJ, I don't remember ever running across an association between > fish and the womb. Where does that come from? Your own > symbology, or some other source? I'm not sure. It was a real surprise in the meditation. These are most effective when one's in the state of mind to make the creative process so natural that the arch seems autonomous, so that was a good sign. The fish head was just really a trip; I'd never had anything like that before. The correlation with it meaning the issues related to something from my time in the womb just came to me "intuitively" while I worked with it. But I think it is a fairly archetypal if subtle correlation anyway. The sea as the source of all life, for example. And as a mother, the sea relates to the womb, and did you know, there is some obscure fact about natal fluid, like it has exactly the same % salinity as the sea or something like that. (Not sure how that works as all seas are different! - but it's something I heard on PBS program once.) Then, the main 'wound', this giant thing 'through' this body, from hip to head on other side, was a 'harpoon' it turned out -- since the symbology had already placed the fish aspect of the humanoid in the womb, this made it clear that the primary problem issues (the wounding/injury) were from that time. So all in all, the symbology was convenient! -- I was really pleased about the med, I really like it when I get spontaneous and "intuitive" stuff in them. Regards, PJ

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