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#62

From: "dennanm" Date: Wed Jul 10, 2002 10:27 pm Subject: RV Obscurities dennanm Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Hi you guys, I am curious. Is there anything in RV that you have heard about, or been taught about (or NOT been), and not really understood the reason for, or just had a problem accepting? E. mentioned some of protocol. I have a couple of my own I'd add but I'm curious about what folks on the list might come up with. As this is assumed to be at least an intermediate list, surely along the way people have run into at least one thing that is still obscure to them. I thought it would be interesting to take such obscurities and talk about them. Maybe submit a few to a few folks I know privately and see what they respond to it, just for our curiosity. Anything come to mind? PJ Reply | Forward

#65

From: "Viv" Date: Wed Jul 10, 2002 10:56 pm Subject: RV Obscurities/Sanctuary eclecticviv Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi PJ: I got a question, that recently came up on another list. What was/is the real intent and purpose of "sanctuary" when doing ERV? Some methods of ERV have different perspectives on this. I'd be interested in the original intent and purpose of using "sanctuary" as a safe place, or whatever it is. Viv* On 11 Jul 2002, at 3:27, dennanm wrote: > I am curious. Is there anything in RV that you have heard > about, or been taught about (or NOT been), and not really > understood the reason for, or just had a problem accepting? Reply | Forward

#68

From: "Docrose_22" #83
From: Bill Pendragon Date: Fri Jul 12, 2002 2:01 am Subject: Re: Remote healing docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi Arlene, I listened to Pru and was impressed with her method. She draws a manakin and makes a mental connection between the patient and the manakin ..She thenfinds the disease in the manakin, and starts adding Universal love etc to that area. Now that is different than the enegy healing I was taught by Rob Abbott..but simmiliar enough for me to see it would work on the same principals. Rob prefers to psychically view ( not remote view because it's not blind in fact the more frontloading the better) the patient, then Rob connects to the patient and erases the disease information from the patients aura allowing the patients fully healthy aura replace it.. that stimulates the deep subconcious to repair the disease phsically actually in both cases. Rob sometimes uses a surrogate to work remotely..connecting a volunteer healer . If no surrogate is available Rob will make an energy surrogate and work on that or use himself .The remote persons aura including the disease will TEMPORARILY be displayed in the aura of the surrogate or in Robs aura. I can see the two mehtods overlapping in Pru's case the surrogate is a manakin but fundamentally the same idea, although couched in different terms. I was not at CRV so please let us know the method used by Nick.. and how it was different. I'm interested in all healing modalities. Best Wishes, Bill Reply | Forward

#91

From: "k9caninek9" Date: Fri Jul 12, 2002 12:27 pm Subject: Re: Remote healing k9caninek9 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 --- In pjrv...ill Pendragon Hi Arlene, > > I listened to Pru and was impressed with her method. > She draws a manakin and makes a mental connection > between the patient and the manakin .. I intrepeted it more as first making a mental connection between viewer and patient, then draw manakin for localization of problems. Then comes the mental access circle (she probably has a specific term for it, but I don't know what that is) and then you send the healing into the mental access circle. She thenfinds > the disease in the manakin, and starts adding > Universal love etc to that area. Actually, it's up to the viewer what he/she thinks should be sent to the patient. Some viewers like the term 'universal love,' and others use more mundane terminology. I figure whatever encapsulates the intent most easily for the viewer will probably work for the best for them. -E Reply | Forward

#108

From: "Docrose_22" I listened to Pru and was impressed with her method. > She draws a manakin and makes a mental connection > between the patient and the manakin > > I was not at CRV so please let us know the method used > by Nick.. and how it was different. I'm interested in > all healing modalities. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hello Bill, Well, I'll do the best I can, which I'm sorry to say isn't all that much as far as Nick Seferlis's presentation went. I didn't take notes and didn't have a chance to get the tape, the lines were so long. I am however going to go to the website and order them. I ordered the entire set from Lyn's Conference in Tampa. It really helps with recall ;-). Pru's method, This is just my interpretation of what I recall.................... First thing Pru did was of course to set up paper with name, date, and target or tag#. Then doodle your ideogram. How gather your information in two column. The left column would be the Outer Body (OB) and the right column would be the Inner body (IBI). Outer Body (BO) Inner Body (IBI) Sore Sad Achy grumpy red stress inflamed unresolved tension broken something missing Now you would proceed to probe the ideogram and this should get you response to that area. Continue now with an intuitive sketch of the effected area. Now we come to the part where you mentioned the mannequin, so to speak. Which is actually just an outline figure of a human. This should be drawn about the size of an entire sheet of paper. At this point you would start to probe this sketch or feel it or scan it with your hand. She also always outlined the body with a sort of outer body. Basically just a second layer. Write down all descriptions you get. Whether they pertain to the problem or if they are just feelings you get. Basically identify. If you were to probe the head and it was fine you would make notation, head fine. If you probed the arm and there was a tattoo on it, write tattoo. If a scar is present where you probe make notation of that, if you probed the knee and there was pain state that etc. Next step would be the "Conscious Map" This consists mainly of the drawing of a large circle. Make an X through it dividing the circle into four sections. The upper left part of the X is the "CC" Conscious Condition, the upper right part of the X is the "CT" Conscious Thoughts, The lower left part of the X is the "SC" Subconscious Condition and the lower right part of the X is the "ST" Subconscious Thoughts. Next you would make four columns below the circle. Conscious Conscious Subconscious Subconscious Condition Thoughts Condition Thoughts "CC" "CT" "SC" "ST" Poor feels bad has deep issues I'm Hungry hurts with parents I'm bored won't go away can't live upto no selfestem expectations depressed Now you would proceed to take out the bad things. You would place your pen in the center of the X and draw a line from there outward, drawing out the bad things, like in the "SC" do this repeatedly until you think you have accomplished that. Now is when you would start drawing lines into the circle and putting in all the good things. Exp. Universal love, desires such as calmness, self confidence. Nick's Presentation....................... Nick's presentation started with a brief explanation of what he was going to do. He then asked for a volunteer out of the crowd who had a problem that has been bothering them for some time. She came up on stage and sat in a chair that he had there for her. He proceeded to ask her what her problem was. It was a knee problem that gave her much pain. He used his mind to send healing to her effected area. He continued to talk and explain things to us. He keep asking her at what level was her pain at now. Over about a twenty min period her pain was reduced each time he asked till it was a zero. The part I liked was the way he showed us to scan for the problem area. He asked everyone that wanted to participate to select a partner. A woman about three rows forward from me came back and asked if I would be her partner. I did not know her nor have I ever seen her before. She wanted me to go first. Lol, that's always fun, I had no idea what I was doing. But, I was game. We sat in chairs facing each other. We were to close our eyes get in a relaxed state and imagine a bottle of white light above the persons head that we were going to view or scan. Upon feeling ready release this white light and let it flow down throughout the body. as it flowed you would see blackness where there was a problem. This was so cool, I had never experienced this type of scanning before. I immediately said I see darkness at your left side of the head and face area, there was an abundance of darkness there. I immediately realized it was my left, so it would be her right, so changed my statement to her to reflect that. Then I said it was moving lower and that it was at her side, rib area, but not as much. As it moved lower the darkness increased, we were now at the hip and pelvic area. There was much darkness here. It then stopped. I opened my eyes and looked at her. I felt that I'm sure I have no idea what I am doing, I must be way off. She looked at me in amazement and pulled back her hair off her face to reveal to me the scars. She said she had been in a plane crash a year or two ago, I don't remember now. She said that the right side of her body took all the hit and that is were she sustained all her damage. Her cheek bone on the right was crushed she was scared there also. She said it missed her middle pretty much and did little damage to the ribs, but some. She then said her right hip and her pelvis was crushed. She has mush reconstructive surgery but was doing well. I was truly impressed with this method. Sorry, but that's all I recall of the presentation. I went to almost all the speakers presentations and as you know there were plenty. I enjoyed every one of them. But sometimes trying to remember it all is hard. I guess everything that impressed me I remembered pretty much. And then just having the opportunity to meet all the Stargate guys was wonderful. If I remember anything else I'll make sure to post it. Regards, Arlene Reply | Forward

#112

From: "k9caninek9" Date: Sat Jul 13, 2002 2:43 am Subject: Re: Remote healing k9caninek9 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 --- In pjrv...Docrose_22" Well, I'll do the best I can, which I'm sorry to say isn't all > that much as far as Nick Seferlis's presentation went. I came at the tail end of his session. He had a thing where he would imagine that the person's body is full of light and the sick areas would show up as dark spots that did not have the light. That method seemed to work really really well for certain of the people who tried it, but not so much for others. I was impressed though with how many of the healers in the audience accurately described the problems of the patient. > Pru's method, This is just my interpretation of what I > recall.................... [SNIP] > How gather your information in two column. The left column > would be the Outer Body (OB) and the right column would be the > Inner body (IBI). > > Outer Body (BO) Inner Body (IBI) > > Sore Sad > Achy grumpy > red stress > inflamed unresolved tension > broken > something missing OK, I saw her lecture at two separate conferences, but I don't remember that part. Maybe that was from a different person? I don't remember any outer and inner body columns. What I remember is that you do an ideo and then kind of a regular rv type thing for the primary problem. THen you do another ideo for any possible secondary problem and then do basic rv for that one. > Now you would proceed to take out the bad things. You would > place your pen in the center of the X and draw a line from there > outward, drawing out the bad things, like in the "SC" do this > repeatedly until you think you have accomplished that. Now is when > you would start drawing lines into the circle and putting in all the > good things. Exp. Universal love, desires such as calmness, self > confidence. Oops, you had it up until that point. The 'drawing out' part is to draw out the info and write it down, but not to draw out problems. Then to do the healing, you are injecting it in to the middle of the center. SInce I saw the lecture twice, it has helped me a lot to remember it. :-) -E Reply | Forward

#116

From: "Docrose_22" How gather your information in two column. The left column > would be the Outer Body (OB) and the right column would be the >Inner body (IB). > > >Outer Body (BO) > >Sore >Achy >red >inflamed >broken >something missing 2nd Column >Inner Body (IB) >Sad >stress >grumpy >unresolved tension > > Next you would make four columns below the circle. > 1st column > Conscious > Condition > "CC" > Poor 2nd Column > Conscious > Thoughts > "CT" > Feels Bad > Hurts > Won't go away 3rd Column > Subconscious > Condition > "SC" > Has deep issues with parents > Can't live upto expectations 4th Column > Subconscious > Thoughts > "ST" > I'm Hungry > I'm Bored > No self-esteem > Depressed Hope this works, Arlene Reply | Forward

#127

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Sat Jul 13, 2002 4:14 pm Subject: Re: Re: Remote healing docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hi Arlene, thanks your description was much more detailed than mine. I had honed in on the areas where Pru's method overlapped with Robs remote energy healing. Using an ideogram to initiate contact with the patient is something I had missed and is rather different but in the same category as patient contact. I'm wondering but not sure..if "energy contact" as in feeling aura" is really any different than the mental contact. Also And I like the black and white scanning method of Nick..although I would like to know what else he was doing. Perhaps he has a website? Best Regards, Bill

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