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pjrv : Messages : 3331-3331 of 4038
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From: Weatherly-Hawaii...m Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:36 pm Subject: Re: Re: RI the Never Ending Story maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha ladies/gents, RIing oneself ..hummm...seems a rather convoluted communication...Kinda funny really... I just get still/center...and there(eventually) my future self is...(my past selves are always available)...No need to remote...I am local...hahah...and we all live (many me's) in relatively the same body... As far as creating my own reality...I am going to have to do a far better job... ps...I doubt very much we change the past ...if this were so ...we wouldn't even be able to have a conceept of past...for it would be constantly changing...what with all 5+ billion people trying to change... just that one... or twenty little things...or some really big ones... We view the past as relatively stable...quite unlike the future...which is not yet actualized... If we could change it...then we would have to RV it...not just looking for lost info...but just to see what the past is ...now......before it metamoorphosis into the next guy's RI session...We would be in a steady trance...just trying to catch a glimpse of the old past...haha...moments before it changes...and we wpuld all ber extremely confused...Hmmm...How would we ever be able to make sense with ourselves...much less with each other... Hey...maybe that is why the world is so screwed up!... Love & Light & Laughter Mali'o...aka...Dawna "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." -- Krishnamurti pjrv : Messages : 3309-3379 of 4038
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From: "Arlene" Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:11 am Subject: RI the Never Ending Story rosearlene Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hello All, Been some time since I've posted, a lot going on in my life and RV kinda got left out in leftfield, so to speak. Well, we moved back up north to West Virginia, from Florida. Bought a new house and finally getting all settled in. Love it up here, don't know why we ever left. Ok, down to RI........... Mmmmmmm, RI. RI has intrigued me since I first heard of it. Maybe because it seemed to be the forbidden subject, so to speak. Later, I realized that given the circumstances it was used for by the military, was perhaps why they didn't wish to discuss it. But, for those of you that were members of PJ's old list back a few years ago, you may remember "Gene Kinkaid," not sure how he spelled his name but anyway,well, Gene always captured my attention. He was a feisty one and always ready for anything. He mentioned the unmentionable ;-), I liked that. He pulled no punches, he made enemies, but didn't seem to mind. I've always been attracted to the bad boy type, ya know the Jimmy Dean type, black leather and motorcycles ;-). Don't know Gene and never met him but still something about him drew me to his posts. OK, back to RI. Well, one day Gene mentioned RI in, how should I put it, in a sexual way. Got my attention ;-). Intrigued me, I wanted to know more, but I didn't know these guys, so wasn't about to post and ask any questions. Well, as luck would have it, I didn't have to, others spoke up and I just read the input. They had those that argued how bad it was and those that wanted to know more and how to do it. I wanted to know more but not being the really trusting type, I had to get up the courage to ask a friend that knew something about it. I knew I could trust this friend with anything and he wouldn't lead me astray. I always hated to bring up RV or RI with my friend, didn't want to impose, as ours was a friendship not involved with RV. But, this was something I really wanted to know sooooooo, I did. He explained it to me and how it worked. We played with it some to see what I could actually achieve. It really wasn't a hard thing to do. And, as I have read in some of the posts here, basically it is just like things we have done mentally many times throughout our lives. I always referred to it as the power of the mind or the power of suggestion. It seemed that I could get guys to ask me to dance or ask me out on a date or just come over and talk, just by thinking about it. LOL, well that was when I was a younger Lady. Now, I try not to think of those things. But, ya know how we all sometimes think, Mmmmmmmm nice, when we look at someone that we are attracted to. Well, I get those thoughts too, but I really wasn't interested. Anyway this guy came on to me and I wondered why. He didn't seem to quit, even after I told him I wasn't interested. I have thought about it a lot, wondering if in some way I was sending some kind of vibe out? Hell, we all like people to think we're attractive, but I really wasn't interested in any hanky panky. My point here, bet you thought I was never going to get to it, is do you think that maybe I was unconsciously RI'ing him into coming on to me? If so, not sure why except maybe for an ego boost. Hmmmmm, well something I guess I'll be thinking about for a while. Now also referring to Bill P's post, When I was talking to my friend about RI he said that you could RI the past or the future. However before you do that think about all the ways that it would change the natural order of things. Example, if we were to go back into our past and say change who we married, that it would change all of what actually accured during that marriage. Well, this I still don't get, no matter how much I think about it. Because if I didn't marry my husband, then I wouldn't have my four children. Does that mean they wouldn't now exist? That my grandchildren wouldn't exist. I can't believe this. But, just in case it would, I ain't about to go back and try it, lol. I'm a firm believer in everything happens for a reason, don't know what that reason might be sometimes, but still believe that one day some way we will find out. Now, influencing the future, I think would be different because you are choosing what you might want to happen, but you would still be changing the natural existence of things, I think. Well, as you can see RI has truly boggled my mind. But I like RI, it's a good thing ;-). Guess it should just be used with the consent of both parties. However, it works even when someone doesn't give consent. I have been the subject of someone's RI, I could only guess as too whom it may have been at the time,as it happened at one of the conferences and there were way too many people that knew how to do it, so guess I'll never know. But, it was a grand evening ;-). ;-) Rose Arlene "Illusion is the first of all pleasures." Oscar Wilde, poet and playwright (1854-1900). Reply | Forward

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From: "stanley01420" Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 9:17 am Subject: Re: RI the Never Ending Story stanley01420 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > Arlene wrote: > Now, influencing the > future, I think would be different because > you are choosing what you > might want to happen, but you would still be > changing the natural > existence of things, I think. Hi Rose Arlene, Maybe the only 'natural existence of things' is the one we create. Maybe that's what we are here to learn. trypper Reply | Forward

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From: "Arlene" Date: Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:16 am Subject: Re: RI the Never Ending Story rosearlene Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > "stanley01420" Maybe the only 'natural existence of things' is the one we create. > Maybe that's what we are here to learn. Hi Trypper, Perhaps your right, as we do make choices and they create our future. Maybe not always the right ones, but who's to say what is the right one, the one we thought to be wrong could be the best choice. ;-) Arlene Reply | Forward

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From: Bill Pendragon Date: Thu Jun 26, 2003 4:34 pm Subject: Re: RI the Never Ending Story docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 HI Arlene, Glad you like it back in West Virginneeee..Mountain Mama..take me home. where I belong...G One of my favorites. Now about RIing the past. Lyn was the one that first described that. It's a strange and paradoxical situation. You don't REALLY change the past-past that has happened.. but by making a resolution to do it.. you create a future past in which what you want will happen..clear?..G You were at Lyn's class you must know what I mean. I've never experienced changing the past-past nor verified anyone else doing it ..although one person I trust "seemed" to do it in an unverifiable way that is still too much for my conciousness to deal with so I don't. However, if it happened I would never know would I? I would just have a "new " past I now remembered as being real. Best Regards, Bill Reply | Forward

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From: "Arlene" Date: Fri Jun 27, 2003 8:07 am Subject: Re: RI the Never Ending Story rosearlene Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Hello Bill, As I read your post, I sat here with a big grin on my face. Now you know why I say it's mind boggling ;-). I think I would need a one on one, in my face type teaching to try to make me understand this. With a lot of examples. But hey, I find it very interesting and would love the opportunity. Always loved the way Lyn was willing to go that extra mile to help us understand. Hope to see him again soon. ;-) Arlene > Now about RIing the past.

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