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#742

From: Richard Krankoski Date: Mon Oct 7, 2002 10:08 pm Subject: Re: Pru's training method Rich_crv > fortune faychild wrote: > i like doing 3 "scans" which include doing three > ideograms. Seems to help get to different aspects > of target easier than crv Are these "scans" done all together at the beginning? > hampers what I've been able to do so far is a resistriction > (at least in the recording of > sessions) of sketching and probing of sketches. > Myself I guess a visual rver > I use the sketching as an intragal opart o my viewing > so during monitoreed > sessions especially I had a harder time rushing > past the sketching, and > keeping it minimal. Can you elaborate on this? Is sketching a minor part of the methodology? Rich Reply | Forward

#752

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Tue Oct 8, 2002 11:28 am Subject: Re: Pru's training method docsavagebill Hi Richard, A scan is what I used to call a complete session. Except withouth the matrix or other sorting devises. A scan consists of writing the target ID, ideogram, feeling the ideogram,probeing the indeogram ..getting its formal definition, then writing very brief sensories and impressions..usually a series of one word statements, then a brief sketch and a then probing the words and sketch for further information ..then you start over with the next "scan" with another ideogram, sesories, impressions, sketch.. etc after three scans you move to various methods of grouping/refining/matrixing your data and finally to accessing the thoughts and feelings of any entities in our scans to bring out the pertinent items better and matrix that in with the rest,,then probe your matrix again for the most valid parts. Pru uses 6 defined ideograms to start with. I'm experimenting (so far happily) with adding an intiial pre-step of dowsing all six ideograms to select the one that I want for the scan then draw it and proceed.. this gives me personally a chance to warm up to the target line and be kinesthetically involved before jumping in with a decision. I seem to need that being a P personality type and not likeing that initial decision upon which everything in the scan is based...:-) Best Regards, Bill --- Richard Krankoski wrote: > > fortune faychild wrote: > > i like doing 3 "scans" which include doing three > > ideograms. Seems to help get to different aspects > > of target easier than crv > > Are these "scans" done all together at the > beginning? > > > hampers what I've been able to do so far is a > resistriction > > (at least in the recording of > > sessions) of sketching and probing of sketches. > > Myself I guess a visual rver > > I use the sketching as an intragal opart o my > viewing > > so during monitoreed > > sessions especially I had a harder time rushing > > past the sketching, and > > keeping it minimal. > > Can you elaborate on this? Is sketching a minor part > of the methodology? > > Rich > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com Reply | Forward

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From: Richard Krankoski Date: Tue Oct 8, 2002 9:56 pm Subject: Re: Pru's training method Rich_crv Thanks Bill, Very interesting. Do you find that for any one target your three scans very much in the amount and accuracy of the data? That is, do the scans work as a group where they are either all good or all bad? Rich > Bill Pendragon wrote: > A scan is what I used to call a complete session. > Except withouth the matrix or other sorting devises. A > scan consists of writing the target ID, ideogram, > feeling the ideogram,probeing the indeogram ..getting Reply | Forward

#776

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Wed Oct 9, 2002 1:58 pm Subject: Re: Pru's training method docsavagebill Hi Rich, You should ask Eve or Fortune, they have done far more sessions than I have. With me all possible combinations happen sometimes. Sometimes all three are similiar and on target. or all three off target. Sometimes each one is a different aspect of the same target but still relatively all on target ( this is the usual situation I would say and the advantage of the three scans..to pick up different aspects) and sometimes some were on target and others were from some other reality or something...(G). That's one of the things that got me to start dowsing Yes/no on various things in the sessions and ideograms.and the matrix sessions....to see if that will reduce castle building or getting off the target onto some attractive stray feline.... You can take a free on line computer course of TDS at www.largeruniverse.com. Best Regards, Bill Reply | Forward

#779

From: "Eva" Date: Wed Oct 9, 2002 8:21 pm Subject: Re: Pru's training method k9caninek9 I think when I started, my scans really sucked. However, after some practice they are getting better. About half of them seem decent now and I haven't been practicing that long so I think they will work themselves out. Sometimes the scans are very similar and sometimes they are quite different. A lot depends on what is in the target. If the target is simple, then you are less likely to get variation. I also tend to be attracted to energy so I get energy ideograms a lot. -E > --- In pjrv...ill Pendragon You should ask Eve or Fortune, they have done far more > sessions than I have. Reply | Forward

#770

From: "David Humphries" Date: Wed Oct 9, 2002 9:24 am Subject: Re: Pru's training method a_healey56 Hi Rich, I've been taking Pru's online training, and doing the three separate scans is the only way I know. There is actually the "transit line", the large scribble that goes on and on and covers most of the sheet on the first page (which I've usually seen referred to as the "ideogram" in other places), followed by three consecutive pages which each start with a very small, very fast, simple and primitive one or two inch ideogram which should only take about one second to draw out. The way I understand it is that the purpose of the transit line is to make some initial contact with the target, then each of the three succeeding one inch ideograms represents a different aspect of the target, and are each worked over separately as Bill already described. My results are a real mixed bag of nuts. Sometime all three ideograms do represent different aspects of the target, sometimes none of them do, sometimes one of them does but the other two don't, sometimes all three represent the same thing. Whatever combination of results you can imagine, I've probably had. David Reply | Forward

#778

From: "Eva" Date: Wed Oct 9, 2002 8:13 pm Subject: Re: Pru's training method k9caninek9 > --- In pjrv...ichard Krankoski Are these "scans" done all together at the beginning? Yup. One ideogram, some descriptors, another ideogram and some descriptors, and a third ideogram and some descriptors. Then work a bit with all aspects combined, then a big sketch and then go to matrix. After that it jumps around somewhat according to what you need. You subcue yourself with questions, do more matrix passes, do sketches as you feel like it, and write out the more complex stuff in sentences. How that later parts go tends to vary a bit from target to target. Despite what someone else said, the transit line on the first page I do not believe is considered an ideogram at all. It's not probed or analyzed or anything. It's just a quick way to help cool down for the session. Only the later 'scribbles' in the scans are considered ideograms. > Can you elaborate on this? Is sketching a minor part of > the methodology? I wouldn't say that. More like you are encouraged to not do any full page complex sketches until a bit later in the session. Before that, there are always places available to do small sketches. IMO, don't fight yourself too much if it is your nature to sketch. If you want to do a sketch something, then do it. -E

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