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#3920

From: "pjgaenir" Date: Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:46 am Subject: People Data & Forced-Choice pjgaenir I didn't really begin serious practice of RV until a couple years ago. I tend to practice for a month, not quite daily, and then take six months off to integrate, LOL. :-) I haven't been in any rush, as I tend to feel that rushing the process before the psychology has time to adapt is one of the sources of instability often seen in viewers, so I've been casual about the timing. I'm not competing with anybody, just working through it when I have time. I find that finally, there are things that are fairly clear for me now that didn't used to be. Such as knowing when data is symbolic vs. literal. Such as getting 'people' as a type of data, I didn't use to get that at all. I find that when I'm in a session and feel the target is or has a person, then I start having difficulty. The minute I feel there is a person in the target, I'm in a forced-choice situation. Now there's only two likely options: male or female? Only a few options each for general hair color, age range, etc. My left brain is kept out of the RV process mostly by the experience of being so wrong so often it's finally learned that NO, it really has NO idea, so shut up. :-) But when I hit any forced-choice situation, my left brain is right in there, when it's "decision-making" more than intuition in its opinion, that's its territory. A couple practice targets ago, I thought the target was a man. It was a woman. Of course, she was wearing a man's baseball jersey and cap and was pitching, she's the first ever woman pitcher in the minor league. Still, blew it. The last practice target, I also felt was a man, who at the target point was thinking to himself, "Have to be strong. Have to be tough." (The last line in the session was an Aspect saying, "He doesn't FEEL criminal." I wondered, what does that mean??) The target was Richard Nixon, just about to shake Ford's hand, leaving the White House in a copter after being impeached. But in both of them, even though I knew the target was focused on a person, that realization so made me feel in forced-choice mode that my left brain dived into the traffic of it, gridlock shortly ensued and my mind just locked up. It not only affects my getting more and better data about the individual, but it affects my target contact overall, often stalling the session, so to speak. Anybody who has encountered this and has their own personal ways of dealing with it, I'd be glad to hear. PJ Reply | Forward

#3922

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Mon Mar 22, 2004 7:00 pm Subject: Re: People Data & Forced-Choice docsavagebill Hi PJ, I'm impressed that you can reliably know when a person is there. But once that's known Pru taught us a really good way to tell if it was male or female and it really does work. I'll PEM you if you want to know..G Bill ------------- Wait, lemme guess. Does it involve feeling out their genitals or something? LOL! I mean, I dunno why the privacy. ;-) Sure, PEM me. But I cannot vow to keep the approach confidential if it works for me--I can only vow to keep the source and reference that way. If it works I'd eventually tell someone else I imagine. PJ Reply | Forward

#3924

From: Rfjuice... Date: Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:33 pm Subject: Re: People Data & Forced-Choice rfjuice2000 Hi PJ, Here's my 2 cents for what it's worth. This is an instance where my doubts and insecurities actually are an advantage. I kind of let that run the show, after all, what do I know? So I just report what I see, no leading questions in my mind, I just figure I'll sort it all out in the end, so I always just write down what I see, no judgement, no decisions. Like watching an abstract movie. When that logical side tries to creep in, I just have a feeling in my head that says I could be wrong, wait and see what else comes. My outlook is, if I'm supposed to know the color of their hair, I'll be shown it, If I'm supposed to know if it's man or woman, I'll be shown it, and leave it at that. Maybe that's why I don't get as much info in my sessions as everyone else :P I don't ask, hehehe :) Linda Reply | Forward

#3926

From: "Elizabeth Hambrook" Date: Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:15 pm Subject: Re: People Data & Forced-Choice ozblueriver <<> Hey Bill, can you put the answer here instead of PEM. I'd love to know too. :) Thanks Liz Reply | Forward

#3929

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Wed Mar 24, 2004 1:27 am Subject: Re: Male vs Female docsavagebill Hi Liz, I'm gonna catch flack for this..now detach and be medical Dr. Liz. And like a doctor reach out with an imaginary RV hand and make an examination of the patient .. If you feel something ..It's a boy! If not It's a girl!..G Best Wishes, Bill > can you put the answer here instead of PEM. I'd love > to know too. :) Reply | Forward

#3932

From: "Elizabeth Hambrook" Date: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:10 am Subject: Re: Male vs Female ozblueriver > I'm gonna catch flack for this..now detach and be > medical Dr. Liz. And like a doctor reach out with an > imaginary RV hand and make an examination of the > patient .. If you feel something ..It's a boy! If not > It's a girl!..G Oh Bill, I'd never laugh at something so serious....................really I wouldn't.............really! ROFL Well ok I would. ROFL Now I know why you guys fiddle all the time. It's us girls RVing again. Ah ha ha haha. Now PJ even though you're alone in the dark doing the... um... er... testing, doesn't mean you can linger. ;) Gotta go do a session. :) Liz .......ROFL...... Reply | Forward

#3935

From: Bill Pendragon Date: Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:26 pm Subject: Re: Male vs Female docsavagebill Ah Thanks Liz, Well let me know the results of your investigations..g Best Wishes, bill

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