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pjrv : Messages : 2434-2463 of 4038
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pjrv/messages/2434?) 2006/06/30 23:58:15
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#2434

From: "Sharon Webb" Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 11:56 am Subject: Re: Information as Energy as Consciousness sharwebb_30512 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 PJ, I also believe that all energy is consciousness. And all consciousness is energy. Energy is contiguous...it is One. To me, everything exists in a sea of energy with no boundaries or walls except our beliefs that there are boundaries or walls. If this is so, then there can be no secrets. Secrecy under these conditions is illusion. Privacy is also illusion. We avert our gaze from these things, and pretend that we have no knowledge of them. But this is a convention---one deeply instilled in us by our culture and by the separation game. Sharon sharwebb...et www.fractalus.com/sharon ---------------------- Moderator's note: Hi Sharon. I started laughing reading your message because you know what I JUST THOUGHT OF? You inspired it. It is this: All along, viewers have been so EXCITED about the idea of 'no more secrets'. Viewers are constantly targeting the biggest secrets of say, the government or whatever. And it was plenty ok with everyone that the government and military could not hide from us, we were psychic and powerful and could see into anything! And then one day, baby bear says, "Somebody's been eating my porridge!" -- and viewer's realize, that if nobody ELSE has any ability to keep any secrets, then NEITHER DO THEY. Oh! The trauma of this realization! How upsetting! ROFL! -- PJ Reply | Forward

#2440

From: "stanley01420" Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:48 pm Subject: Re: Information as Energy as Consciousness stanley01420 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 What goes around, comes around.. :-) Buckaroo Bonzai > PJ wrote: > And then one day, baby bear says, "Somebody's been eating > my porridge!" -- and viewer's realize, that if nobody ELSE has any > ability to keep any secrets, then NEITHER DO THEY. > > Oh! The trauma of this realization! How upsetting! ROFL! Reply | Forward

#2447

From: greenmn900... Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 2:10 pm Subject: Re: Information as Energy as Consciousness greenmn900... Send Email Send Email PJ, You wrote: > All along, viewers have been so EXCITED about the idea of > 'no more secrets'. Viewers are constantly targeting the biggest > secrets of say, the government or whatever. And it was plenty > ok with everyone that the government and military could not > hide from us, we were psychic and powerful and could see > into anything! > And then one day, baby bear says, "Somebody's been eating my > porridge!" -- and viewers realize, that if nobody ELSE has any > ability to keep any secrets, then NEITHER DO THEY. > Oh! The trauma of this realization! How upsetting! You just nailed it. Warm Regards, Don Reply | Forward

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From: Weatherly-Hawaii... Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 11:30 pm Subject: Re: Information as Energy as Consciousness maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha PJ, }And then one day, baby bear says, "Somebody's been eating my porridge!" -- and viewer's realize, that if nobody ELSE has any ability to keep any secrets, then NEITHER DO THEY. Oh! The trauma of this realization! How upsetting! ROFL! -- PJ{ Aw...girl...did ya have to go there?...I was trying to block that out!...hahaha {as she discretely pick her proboscus}Oh no...bathroom psychosis!hahaha Love & Light & Laughter Mali'o...aka...Dawna [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Reply | Forward

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From: Weatherly-Hawaii... Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 11:33 pm Subject: Re: Information as Energy as Consciousness maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha PJ, }'97, I was dreaming an RV session, and was sort of entwined with the target on a deeper and more intimate level, and the voice (probably the Narrator) said, "...it images itself for you." { I hear you... I don't think any of this is one bit funny...at least not in ridicule... perhaps in joy...soooo... I feel the same exact way...and all that 'is'... does want to be recognized/ loved...and give and receive...exhange energy...the more communication tools at an energy's disposal...the more it communicates...or is recognized as a communication...from the universe of self?other? Love/appreciation are everythings ...original favorite food...I do so agree...Especially the give and receive...Not that I have it all down yet... The goal for me is to let that awareness/relationship...seep ever deeper into my life... and to give love...regardless of receipt...but of course...One always receives more than one gives...Ok...I take that back...At least the lucky ones do...or are they? My gift back to RV/cosmos...is in my attempt to become proficient... at this superpower of the biomind gift...No matter how long it takes me!...just to recognize the existance...by practice...if for no other reason... I would love to see a grass roots movement in RV...to spread the empowerment...with all the clearest social decorum/humanitarian ethics/values/goals...along with it... To only serve ...love/evolution...ok off the soapbox......I hear ya! Love & Light & Laughter Mali'o...aka...Dawna pjrv : Messages : 2427-2471 of 4038
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pjrv/messages/2427?) 2006/06/30 23:59:19
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#2427

From: "pjgaenir" Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 8:20 am Subject: Information as Energy as Consciousness pjgaenir Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Separate from the concept of viewer-data or even analysis summoning data, is another thing I've often considered, but I rather figured everybody would laugh at me. Well, why the heck not... If one assumes that all energy is consciousness (a gigantic assumption, but one which I hold); And that pretty much everything we know to exist (and a heck of a lot we don't) is energy (even mass is merely 'a collection of vibrating energy' according to physics, I am told); Then concepts such as one stated by Seth (via Jane Roberts), that information WANTS to be known, and is 'drawn to' those which will know it, seek it, utilize it, as much as they are drawn to it, begins to make more sense. Sort of. As much as my brain cells can wrap around it anyway. I have on the Firedocs website a phrase a voice said to me in a dream one time, way back in '97, I was dreaming an RV session, and was sort of entwined with the target on a deeper and more intimate level, and the voice (probably the Narrator) said, "...it images itself for you." I perceived with that, qualities in the target that were proud like a new flower, like a lovely naked woman, like a magnificent architectural feat, a fresh life with delight at being delighted in. Since that time I've often wondered what role information itself plays in the process of our acquisition of it. I sometimes have a different take on an RV session than others seem to. I don't talk much about why on some level I feel intimate with a waterfall or a loving admiration for a footbridge because of some ineffable quality in the session that merged us. I can't well explain (without invoking laughter all around) the sense that the target loves me too; that it wants me to experience it; and that actually 'loving' a target might even facilitate the information acquisition process. Might the difficulty secrets have in being kept, be partly due to the innate nature of the information itself WANTING to be known, wanting to be found; to be discovered, via excavation or introspection? Is our relationship with the information a mutual relationship? PJ Reply | Forward

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From: "stanley01420" Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 9:24 am Subject: Re: Information as Energy as Consciousness stanley01420 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > --- In pjrv...ups.com, pj wrote: > concepts such as one stated by Seth (via Jane Roberts), that > information WANTS to be known, and is 'drawn to' those which > will know it, seek it, utilize it, as much as they are drawn > to it, begins to make more sense. I've always thought that too. The problem arises when the human ego overcomes the information for it's own purposes. The ego is the hidden membrane. > Might the difficulty secrets have in being kept, be partly > due to the innate nature of the information itself WANTING > to be known, wanting to be found; to be discovered, via > excavation or introspection? Is our relationship with the > information a mutual relationship? I think so, PJ. trypper Reply | Forward

#2455

From: "Eva" Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 8:42 pm Subject: Re: Information as Energy as Consciousness k9caninek9 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 One thing about rv research, it costs a lot less money than quantum research. The main tools are paper and pen, LOL! -E > > Might the difficulty secrets have in being kept, be partly > > due to the innate nature of the information itself WANTING > > to be known, wanting to be found; to be discovered, via > > excavation or introspection? Is our relationship with the > > information a mutual relationship? Reply | Forward

#2450

From: "oracleblues" Date: Fri Mar 7, 2003 7:33 pm Subject: Re: Information as Energy as Consciousness-I agree oracleblues Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > If one assumes that all energy is consciousness (a gigantic > assumption, but one which I hold Hi PJ, Chinese philosophy does assert the connection of energy to consciousness. Chi- the wind element, the energy which flows through ur body, and which is all around us- which Beverley Jaegers mentioned as being the same energy which is the basis of RV. Chi is very much a part of consciousness- the Chinese masters say, and people who practice Tai Chi probably testify to that. So, I do agree with you, on what you said about the information, having a desire- to be known. It would be the most natural thing for it-that is it's basic function- the reason why it exists. ( Hey, I hope I am not sounding too philosophical here, but I do think this is a possibility.) Arijit Reply | Forward

#2471

From: "Eva" Date: Sat Mar 8, 2003 1:14 am Subject: Re: Information as Energy as Consciousness-I agree k9caninek9 Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 I tend to agree with this theory. EIther that or I just like the sound of it. NOw I can say hey, I didn't actually blab, it was just because the information wanted to be known, LOL! ;-) -E >--- In pjrv...ups.com, "oracleblues" So, I do agree with you, on what you said about the information, > having a desire- to be known. It would be the most natural thing for > it-that is it's basic function- the reason why it exists.

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