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pjrv : Messages : 3463-3474 of 4038
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pjrv/messages/3463?) 2006/07/01 15:10:54
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#3463

From: "Linda & John Garvey" Date: Mon Jul 7, 2003 12:58 pm Subject: Re: Higher selves linda_g7us Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 > I don't think i have a higher self. i was a > premie, premature. they said > there are no higher selves available right > now unless you want to wait. I > was in a hurry so i took the next best > offer of several lower selves. LOLOL Fortune -- practical, as always. eh?! ;) I myself can't really relate to higher and lower selves, or past, present and future selves. I feel like I am one self, in different situations (or dimensions, etc.). Just me. One me. I'm probably in the minority on this one, since just about everybody on the various lists I'm on talks about their higher, lower, past, present and future selves. I guess everyone experiences themselves differently. Whatever works...! :) Linda G "The distinction between past, present and future is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one." -- Albert Einstein -- Reply | Forward

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From: Bill Pendragon Date: Mon Jul 7, 2003 6:14 pm Subject: Re: Higher selves docsavagebill Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Haste makes waste..LOL.. G So does that include Merywell?? Bill > I > was in a hurry so i took the next best offer of > several lower selves. Reply | Forward

#3469

From: Weatherly-Hawaii... Date: Tue Jul 8, 2003 12:17 am Subject: Re: Higher selves maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha Linda, You wrote: > I'm probably in the minority on this one, since > just about everybody on the > various lists I'm on talks about their higher, lower, > past, present and future selves. I guess everyone > experiences themselves differently. Whatever works...! :) It is not so much as dividing one's...self...or discarding...oneness with self...but focusing ...on certain traits/expertise...that one most appreciates ...in ones self...and using the term ...higher self ... as a conjouring up/tool... that exascerbates that part of self ...that always does the correct/ appropriate thing...the psi/intuitive self... and since there is no such thing ...as perfection (or as some of my friends interpret it...everything is already perfect)...it cannot be attained... nevertheless... It is all a construct anyway...either way...Simply a valuable temporarily designated...personification... a line of communication ... concerning the 'unknown' or ...unclearly known...to self...Sorta like a target ID...if your into Rv... For some it is more concrete...the higher self...is a 'belief' as you say... but for many of us ...it is ...I think ...more a...characterization ...a creative designation...a communicative tool... It is a term we can relate to...because it (the construct) helps us scrutinize/analyze ourselves( sans dogma)...and of course ...We are all one...all of us!...Mine (mini/many selves) are always together ...'Higher self' is simply a visualization technique...to conjour up a representative...higher self...Magic even...perhaps self disapline? Each seperate individual experience ... in my life... has called on some new elements or aspect of myself ...to be constantly providing info...to introspect upon...from more and more tangential angles...thus adding yet another layer to self...I am my own Bene' Gesert... I see the forest...but that does not mean...there are no individual trees...Or that I truly place one tree above another...(Ok sometimes... the bigger/older the tree... the more upset I get when they get bull- dozed down) Each aspect of self ...in its own best place...is my goal...A team effort of one......All one... Perhaps... more like the rings /layers of a tree...One can create/fantasize/ imagine/designate/represent ...one ...to be the higher ring... but it would only have deep meaning ...to the individual...collectively... or not...I am agnostic in most things... Don't take it so darn serious...shee...I don't...Untill others seem to have so much trouble with it... I like it...The term serves its purpose for me...I don't 'believe' in it...but it is a usefull pragmatic tool...Untill a better one comes along... I am not exactly suggesting every one obsess on it ...to the point that they begin to give actual names and ages and like Sybil/or Eve... break up into seperate people... compartmentalize memories...but on the contrar...to free one's memories up to process themt )o all of self)... ...We wouldn't want anyone to destabilize...That is not the benefit... To become more centered...and self aware...is...and to learn to love and accept all selves...no matter what their past actions may have been...to love self...all of self is not always easy...Takes time/attention/work... Like Fortune said...I also ..."got my share of lower selves" My higher self is the most poetic one......one aspect of me... in a major collage of me's......Holographic even...memory in each and every cell of my physical/temporal body alone... I say..."Pick a spot... and call it thy higher self!"..."Why Not?"hahahah... In a wholistic fashion...not simply/myopicl;y linear... PS...I also like to use the term 'future self'...for visualization...cool down... but that is kinda silly as well...in that ... if all time ...takes place simultaneously...than there is no such thing ...as future...and so ...therefore ...of needs be... there can also not be a future self... Only a now/awake self...extending in all directions... Nevertheless I like it anyway... hahah pss...Like you said..."Whatever works!" I also have 30 yrs of doing I-Ching with friends ...and Tarot...So I guess I am slightly predisposed... to using that sort of terminology...... They say we (homo sapiens) invented/created time...and others say...We even created god...So why not a higher self?...Perhaps we are all really the Angel Gabriel...each and every one of us...It could happen As some sang ..50's music (rythym and blues/rock & roll (bop)/jazz?) "Life is but a Dream"...mmm...pa dididly bop padidily pop...life is but a dream...mmmm...etcetera... Love & Light & Laughter Mali'o...aka...Dawna Auther C. Clark "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguisable from magic." Reply | Forward

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From: "Linda & John Garvey" Date: Tue Jul 8, 2003 1:44 pm Subject: Re: Higher selves linda_g7us Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha Dawna -- Yes, I understand that it's used as a construct, point of focus and visualization tool by most, and perhaps an actual belief by some.. It's just one that has never worked for me. So I just stick with my one self LOL. :) Linda G "The distinction between past, present and future is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one." -- Albert Einstein -- pjrv : Messages : 3483-3490 of 4038
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pjrv/messages/3483?) 2006/07/01 15:13:56
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#3483

From: "Linda & John Garvey" Date: Tue Jul 8, 2003 9:18 pm Subject: Re: Re: Higher selves linda_g7us Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 >it's all coming together now Elvis was my higher self. Look at all >the good that did him.He is no longer in the house, as they say. >don't step on my blueseude shoes, Fortune Awwwww, poooooor Elvis.... Well, at least now we know, eh? LOLOLOL Lilnda G "The distinction between past, present and future is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one." -- Albert Einstein -- Reply | Forward

#3484

From: Weatherly-Hawaii... Date: Wed Jul 9, 2003 12:47 am Subject: Re: Re: Higher selves maliolana Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 Aloha Fortune, Mine (selves) don't have genders/bodies/personhood/nor recognizable voices......I get to bear those burdens/joys... and I get to make up/create... whatever imagery feels good/works... at the moment...... > it's all coming together now Elvis was my higher self. Look at all > the good that did him.He is no longer in the house, as they say. > don't step on my blueseude shoes, Fortune Elvis hmm?...hahahehehe...The young one?...Perhaps he will do a better job... now that he is deceased...He is... isn't he? Love & Light & Laughter Mali'o...aka...Dawna Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguisable from magic." "Arthur C. Clarke Reply | Forward

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From: "consulting...ngworks.org" Date: Fri Jul 11, 2003 7:40 pm Subject: Re: Re: Higher selves tarot_expert Offline Offline Send Email Send Email Invite to Yahoo! 360 Invite to Yahoo! 360 On future selves? Just remember future selves are the ones that might be, they are probably not set in stone. So if they talk you into altering your future? You may not see the same one when you get there. gogogirl

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