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From: Bill Pendragon Date: Thu Aug ?9, ?00? 5:44 pm Subject: Focus of attention on a group of objects is found to organize the image docsavagebill Hi All, I am replying to my earlier post where I a group had found that a varied group of objects was first recognized as a bunch of disparate qualities and shapes( note similiarity to RV? ) and then what eventually organized them togeather as a coherent group was fixed attention on the group of objects. My point in posting that was to draw attention to how similiar that is to an initial RV scan. The info comes in as these bits and pieces and is very difficult to organize without AOL. This article stresses the importance of ATTENTION in organizing the pieces togeahter. But since we are blind to our target the question is how is attenion brought to bear in RV? I would suggest that perhaps just staying with the "energy" of the scan without making any effort to organize it might bring it in? Best Regards, Bill __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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From: "scottrver" Date: Wed Sep 4, ?00? 11:53 am Subject: Re: Focus of attention scottrver Hi Bill, > Bill Pendragon But since we are blind to our target the > question is how is attenion brought to bear in RV? I > would suggest that perhaps just staying with the > "energy" of the scan without making any effort to > organize it might bring it in? This is very much what Joe McMoneagle describes in Remote Viewing Secrets. I concur - In my ERV experience, the longer I stay in a session the more bits and pieces of information I get. At some point I start to get more complete information. While I have found I have the ability to direct the perspective of the perceptions somewhat, I don't seem to be able to significantly accelerate gathering a more comprehensive picture. (Of course I probably don't have enough experience yet either.? ) It just takes continued attention. As Joe told me in an email once - focus is everything. Scott

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From: Bill Pendragon Date: Thu Sep 5, ?00? 9:16 am Subject: Re: Re: Focus of attention docsavagebill Hi Scott, Well that brings up another question for Joe McMoneagle then or anyone else for that matter. Since focus seems important... exactly what does one do to maintain focus. The word "focus" may mean something different to me than you or Joe. Just concentration is not the whole ticket or even the main ticket..To me it means literally feeling something from the signal, like a pull on a fishing line. And staying with that.But I would like to hear from more advanced RVers. BTW thanks for the meditation site. Best Regards, Bill > As Joe told me in an email once - focus is > everything.

#638

From: "scottrver" Date: Thu Sep 5, ?00? ?:19 pm Subject: Re: Focus of attention scottrver Hi Bill, In an ERV session, my focus and concentration is on successfully clearing my mind so that I may enter a trance state. I focus on my breath and releasing my thoughts. My focus is then walking a little bit of a fine line to continue to keep my mind clear and pull out my perceptions to consciousness and write them down. I find that all of this takes a bit of real concentration to do so, but very doable and it seems to be getting easier with experience. Scott > --- In pjrv...l Pendragon Since > focus seems important... exactly what does one do to > maintain focus. The word "focus" may mean something > different to me than you or Joe. Just concentration is > not the whole ticket or even the main ticket..To me it > means literally feeling something from the signal, > like a pull on a fishing line. And staying with > that.

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